Emotional Intelligence With Dana Parker

Thomas Green here with Ethical Marketing Service. On the podcast today, we have Dana Parker Dana, welcome.

Hi, thank you for having me. I appreciate it.

My pleasure. Would you like to take a moment and tell the audience a little bit about yourself and what you do?

I found one of the most important things and achieving goals really has to do with emotions. Emotions are something that every single one of us experience and feel and as human beings, it’s part of our human experience. And so I’ve spent a great deal of time and energy and effort studying the power emotions and the place they have in our life and how they affect our goals, how they affect business, how they affect our daily lives. And so I love coaching people and helping people become aware of, first of all, how to identify and understand their emotions and what they are and how they’re driving them and then how to transform those into something more empowering and more of a fit for what they actually want.

Something that’s in alignment with the goal, which becomes a really important part of reaching any goal or being successful at anything really. So the topic of conversation, like we talked about beforehand emotional intelligence and how that might help with business if you were if someone was like yeah, I’m interested in this particular topic but I don’t know much about it. Well, how would you start and what would you say? I think I would start with this whole idea about in our world. We focus so much on actions, are actions creating our results or outcome. And we think that we have these ideas in our, in our mind, you know that if we just focus on actions, the outcomes will be different and there’s a part of that that is actually accurate. There’s a part of, of actions that are such an important part of achieving results. So I want to give the proper weight to that part of achieving. But what most people don’t understand is results are what we’re, what we experience are based on our actions with those actions are actually based on a thought paired with an emotion.

So thoughts paired with emotions drive us to take certain actions, which drive us to certain outcomes. And so I kind of like to explain it back that way because we’re very aware of our actions create our outcomes in our life. But what drives actions? Well, a thought paired with an emotion moves us to take action when we just focus on actions and outcomes. We can achieve something for a while. But our beliefs, our emotions, if we, if we have those core root ideas running in our mind, we will always fall back into the old pattern. A great, really amazing pad of obvious pattern is health. You know, people who want to change their body and change how they look when they go to the gym, they’re eating right there drinking right there, doing everything that they should and they’re on this rigid, rigid schedule to work out and be healthy and they’re just changing their actions and yeah, they’ll get different outcomes.

But most people, yo-yo or they experience the yo-yo of gaining that way back when, when some life event hits and they can’t go to the gym, you know, all the time and they’re emotionally eating and these things are happening, you know, they’ll gain that extra weight back and it’s because they’re, what was driving their old habits of, of eating were emotions or driving some of their actions were emotions and thoughts that then create the actions same thing with finances. You know, people who experience, you know, time and time again, you can work, work, work really hard to achieve a certain level of financial security, financial wealth, but if your thoughts and ideas inside aren’t, aren’t running at that level, if you don’t bump up those thoughts, ideas and emotions, you won’t stay there, you will fall back. I’ve seen people lose, you know, hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars because they work, work, work, they’re focusing on actions and then, but they haven’t changed anything here or emotionally about, about money.

It doesn’t matter how much they make, they always feel a sense of scarcity. You know, that might be something that some of the people listening to this podcast could relate to. That sense of scarcity doesn’t go away with the amount of money that comes into your bank account. That sense of scarcity is an emotion that you’re carrying and it doesn’t matter how much you make, you can still have that emotion. I experienced that in my own financial world personally. And I’ve seen that to be true in so many people’s lives. So, I think that’s where I started is that’s the importance of the value of hey, we got to look deeper. We’re gonna look beyond just actions and look into the thoughts, ideas, emotions. And beliefs we carry that affect everything in our lives. There’s a ripple effect. And I tell people if you’re focusing on actions, it’s one of the hardest ways to change. It’s one of the hardest ways to create change in your life. So if you want real lasting change, you’re going to get to the root uproot those old ideas that aren’t working.

Let them go learn how to do that set in new ones. And then when you have new ideas about yourself, about the world, about money, about anything that you experience different emotions and thoughts to experience different actions, experience different outcomes. Do you make a distinction between mindset and emotional intelligence? Like what would you say the big difference between those two are? That’s a great question. And, and I think, you know, I think there’s a lot of overlap in the two. I think a lot can be their emotional intelligence in, in my opinion, is the ability to identify and identify the emotions you’re feeling and work through them. So it does take a fair amount of mental processing to do that and mental mindset. But a lot of times people, um, what I find in the personal development excitement in this industry for over a decade now, teaching and educating people, um, is a lot of people work on affirmations that work on the positive things, programming the positive things, which is great.

But if you can identify the negative drivers in your life and learn how to let those go and tell your mind, because those ideas, like I’m not good enough, there’s never enough money. I don’t deserve it. I’m not worthy. I’m unlovable, those kind of things. Um, run, I mean, I don’t know that I’ve met very many people that don’t have some level or some phrase that I’m not worthy. I can’t have it. I don’t deserve it. And so when you can really identify those limiting beliefs, those negative ones that drive the outcomes and then those are held in our subconscious line. The subconscious line actually season pictures and it doesn’t know the difference between what’s real and what’s not. It just sees the pictures you feed it and it listens. And so when you can identify those and properly tell your subconscious mind to let them go and then move forward and reprogram with affirmations, you’re basically saying we’re letting go of this and we’re replacing it with this, you’re not just saying here’s some information, remember it, remember it.

So the other cool thing, Thomas, is they’re actually finding that emotions are what rewire the brain. Emotions can help rewire the brain faster. And Dr Judy spends a does a great amount of work in this particular area. And so the ability to identify or choose an emotion and cultivate it can help rewire the brain faster. And that’s another really amazing idea that’s out there that that I have found to be really, really empowering when it comes to this emotional education. So does that answer your question? I think so yeah. To give us an example because you mentioned the scarcity mindset or not exactly mindset, but the scarcity approach to, for example, money. How would you go about tackling that if someone did have that thought process? Yeah, so first I think I have the on our website actually, I created it’s called the empowerment cycle and the empowerment cycle really walk someone through those things.

And but some of my power questions you first of all, what are the facts? What are your financial facts in your life? Write down your story, write down what you’re experiencing with money, what goes on a regular basis with money. So the first step is really awareness of the facts. What’s happening? What’s your story? When you can identify that, then you can go into next is the feelings, what are the feelings, what are the emotions that come up? Most people don’t even know that when they go to swipe their card, they’re experiencing a fair amount of emotions. They’re experiencing thoughts and ideas about money. Oh no, I hope I have enough for this. Oh no, there might not be enough in my account for this. And they have those programs running and they don’t even know it. And so this awareness of the facts and the feelings are really important key because you cannot change what you don’t acknowledge. You have to you get to acknowledge your story and your feelings about it before you can change anything.

And so I would say the first, those are the first steps. What are the facts? What are the feelings? What’s the worst part about not having enough money? You know? And I do some have to do some writing on that. What’s what are the biggest fears when it comes to money for yourself? What you know, I would start asking questions like, do you feel like money defines you if you like defines who you are, the person that you are? Let’s look and see if your identity is wrapped in those emotions. Those thoughts and ideas of money because those are things you really want to separate those things outside of us should never define are worth define who we are. And so it would be a lot of questions, a lot of understanding or someone’s story if I was coaching them, that’s what it would be like. for anyone listening, you can go through that same process, ask yourself those questions, write those things down, become what I call lovingly curious, lovingly curious about your patterns and then I I from there, it’s a matter of learning and training yourself to let go of those ideas to know when you’re feeling them, know what they sound like and be consistent with telling yourself, that’s no longer the story, you have to rewrite a new story.

So how do you think that that particular example develops over time? So does it develop over time? So how does someone have, like a scarcity mindset? How does that come about? I love that question, that’s such a great question. there are lots of ways we pick up these ideas one we have impactful experiences, impactful experiences actually affect our, our bodies in our brains and so when we have these impactful experiences with money, whether personal or in our own life growing up, we take on these ideas. So Most of our beliefs about ourselves in the world are set in place by the time, about 8-14 depending on the study that you’re listening to or reading and so that timeframe growing up can be very impactful, were like little sponges just soaking in the world and making meaning of everything.

And so impactful experiences, a person of authority tells you. So, um, maybe you have a mom or a dad that is when you ask for a candy bar at the store, when your little, they say we don’t have enough for that. We can’t afford that when you hear that so many times as a little kid, you’re soaking in these ideas of, oh, there’s never enough money, There’s never enough for me. And so we take on these ideas through impactful experience. Personal authority repetition is another powerful way that we can pick up these ideas and beliefs. Um, generational. So this is a really interesting thing that I’ve been really looking into. Um, these generational ideas oftentimes we do see, and this isn’t true across the board, which is exciting. That’s, that’s really good news. But you’ll see families that are financially wealthy generationally, it doesn’t matter if they’re passing down their wealth or not.

The next generation has these really healthy ideas about money that carry on and translate into real life. And so same thing with poor, you can see families that, that, um, pass on this tradition of being poor or with the scarcity mindset that can happen now, it’s not true across the board. So what does that mean? It means we have the power to create something different. And so, we can get up generationally, it can be passed down to us. it can be taught to us, you know, sometimes in religion this could be a message and underlining subconscious messages that can come through in religion that I like to make sure people are aware of. you know, this idea of the root of money is evil. That’s a really common thing that can come up is it’s not humble or it’s not spiritually good to be really wealthy things like that.

So religion generational, personal. and I think that I think that covers all of them that I can think of, that I’ve really got into. It was a great answer if you don’t mind me sharing and an example for myself and one that I’ve seen, and then you can perhaps give me your thoughts on it, the scarcity. From my perspective, one thing I’ve, I don’t know if it’s struggled with, but it’s been persistent in the back of my mind. So I have sort of acknowledged that it’s there, but perhaps haven’t done anything about it, and that is when pricing, having a little bit of scarcity going on in the back of my mind about that and I have seen it in other business owners as well, which is why I was interested in talking about it and it’s like it’s sort of because there’s a difference between pricing to the point where it’s like ultra-premium and I’m not sure I’d like, I’d love to know your, your opinions on this and then there’s undervaluing yourself.

So, and that would be the opposite end of it, where you’re its pricing strategy based on scarcity and I think there’s a lot of people which go to the latter and perhaps I’ve struggled with that. So I’d like to get your thoughts on that and how you might go about addressing it. Absolutely. I love this. This is a this is a really great topic and one that there’s lots of facets to this. There’s not only money, scarcity, but they’re also in their self-doubt and self-worth to be addressing. And so there’s a lot, I mean this is probably something a topic that I could take somebody through like 90 days and really have some good headway, you know, because there’s some deep stuff here. I would definitely take the roots of okay money, what are your ideas about money? What are your ideas about money coming in and money leaving and how do you feel about that? And what’s in your story so far, just like we just talked about then I also go into the feelings, you have personally the thoughts, feelings and ideas when you’re asking for a certain price and what is your price limit, you know, what’s your, what feels comfortable and what’s just beyond comfortable and then what’s totally uncomfortable and pushing that and really expanding that and you know something that I, because I have struggled with this personally over the years.

I just recently in October started my own business. And so the idea here is to become aware of what’s your limit and what range do you want to be in? That’s good because you have your you have the market research that’s really important. So you have this brain part, the logical part, here’s the market research with the education I have or the understanding that I have here is about the price range I should be in. But then you have the emotions with it. If those two are not in alignment, if you’re charging market price, but you feel bad for it, you will have a really hard time getting clients and business, it will struggle, there will be ebbs and flows and there will be resistance. Um, and so identifying what are those key things that are holding you back? Where’s the resistance? And then letting those things go and stepping into expanding just a little bit more, raising your prices just a little bit more and expanding your comfort zone.

And so, um, I think that would be the process first identify and understand what are the negative drivers, what are the negative stories that are running and um, and then from there letting those go and then what is the news story, how can you take the next step and expand a little bit more and then anchoring that in anchoring that in with the proper emotions, you know when you um, when you charge that amount, making sure your emotions are thank you, I receive it. I tell people that statement will transform how you go about your experience in exchange with money. Thank you, I received that and some oftentimes all you can say that in my own, in my own head if if not in the moment, thank you, I received that. I’m so grateful for this opportunity to exchange what I have to offer for what you’re offering. So receiving is a really big part of the process to so there’s actually a book I’d recommend.

Can I, can I offer a book reconnect. It’s called The Power of receiving by Amanda Owen. If you were to summarise the principles of the book, what would you say? Yes. The importance and power receiving so many of us were doers and givers and we go, go and we’re making it happen and we don’t even understand that on a regular basis we are unwilling to receive, you know, even in the smallest of things I can see this happen. When have you ever offered somebody a compliment and they say, oh stop and they would do this? Have you ever seen? Yeah. So that is their body language and their words and every part of the saying, I don’t receive that. And even in a simple thing like that, you know, it seems so simple accepting the compliment, but there’s a ripple effect that that has, somebody is offering you a gift. They’re offering you value and a compliment. And if that’s hard to receive, you can only imagine on bigger levels may be hard to receive in financial gain. Um, you know, raises at work, things like that. And so, um, she talks to in depth on how to go about receiving, how, you know, if you’re not receiving, how you know what it looks like. Um, and how to open up your heart to receive more. She has great affirmations, great practices in that book that are just phenomenal. And I also failed to mention a few other books. Is that okay? Yeah, sure. Just in this area of business and money, um, these are some of my most favourite that I feel like I’ve transformed my life. One is the illusion of money by Kyle Cease. K Y L E C E A S E Kyle Cease. He does a phenomenal job. I mean, we’re talking, identifying and understanding the beliefs that drive our ideas about money and learning how to let them go. He’s very gifted and I highly recommend that book. And then there’s two other ones.

One is the Divine Law of compensation by Marianne Williamson. Not ones on money working miracles. That’s one that I’ve almost listened to three times because it’s for me it’s so good. And again, with every book, take the golden nuggets, enjoy, take those things. How can I apply this in my life? Look for application. And I think that’s such an important part of reading books is when you’re reading books, personal help, buying self-help books, how can I actually apply this in my life? So it doesn’t become like a shelf help, you know, you just read, it was like, oh, that’s cool, no, apply, apply, apply knowledge is power. That’s one of the phrases that’s out there and runs around. I actually think applied knowledge is where the power comes in. And so and you don’t know how to apply it, you can reach out, find, find a coach, find somebody that can support you and help you learn how to apply these principles and tools. that is such a powerful thing to do. And I think some of the most successful people in the greatest of great, always have coaches or a team of people to support them, Give them perspective and ideas that they don’t have.

And so I’m a huge advocate and personally, I mean, I still, I’ve been in the industry for 12 years, I still have a coach, I pay every month, I’m consistent, I I’m always growing and expanding. So that Marianne Williamson, the divine long conversation. And then the last one I recommend is Outwitting the devil by napoleon Hill. All right. I think a lot of people are aware of napoleon Hill, but I can admit to actually not, not reading that particular one, I’ve read the one prior to think and grow rich rather on principles of success or I can’t remember the exact title, but I haven’t read the one about, say on what’s Outwitting the devil, Outwitting the devil. Okay, yeah. And they are, there’s great principles and ideas in it. I love it and it’s, I think it’s an all-around amazing book. That’s what I’ve also listened to twice. So okay, well, there’s a lot of work to do that.

Yes, and one step at a time, you know, make a list and just one step at a time you have, I tell people all the time when you step into personal development, a lot of people think, oh, I’m just going to get to this destination and then it’s complete and I’m done. And I just, I think life is full of opportunities for expansion and, you know, I noticed this with people once they get close to a goal, they have another one set already. And so life is a, is a journey of expansion, so make sure you have balance in your expansion and your work, but also in fun and play and allowing yourself to really be present and enjoy life, I think sometimes that can be missing in our business world because we’re so set on goals and success and moving forward, but that that idea of really enjoying the moment, enjoying life, you know, and enjoying what you’ve created and taking moments, you know, I used to set alarms on my phone to remind myself to be present, be present in the moment, give gratitude for the moment and I’d stop when those alarms to go off and I think of three things I’m grateful for and just allow myself to be in that space, I’m grateful for this, I’ve created this, this is powerful in my life and that gratitude expands and opens up the heart to receive even more and why wait, why wait until you achieve something in order to really soak in the success, enjoy the moments.

So that’s a random side now, but that’s a great answer and you’re a life coach, is that right? Yes. And do you deal with, because presumably anyone can have a life coach. Do you deal with people who are individuals or in business or both? So I right now I do individuals and I do some group coaching. So this area of business, I worked for a company where I did executive life coaching and so I worked with people in business, it’s an area I’m passionate about that. I would love to see great change in, it’s one of the reasons why I started my own business is because I really do. I had a hard time finding the kind of integrity and the kind of inner system that works for, for me, a long term successful business because you have not just the business aspect of things that are important, but you have the mindset and the inner work and the tools inside that creates right. It’s inner world for outer world results in a world healing for our world results is the tagline for the company in a world movement that I’ve started.

And, and a lot of times, businesses have a really hard time having both. And so I thought, why not just do my own thing? And this is the area of businesses is one area that I really do feel that we’re lacking in emotional education, emotional intelligence in a lot of ways, not across the board, it’s not true everywhere, but if we can become aware of mindset and emotions and how they drive everything in our life. Um, and really use that to our advantage and create alignment. You know, success becomes more filled with ease and more it’s a faster process for the majority of people when you really take that approach and you’re getting long-term results, long term working results. So like basically, um, is applicable in all areas of your life or perhaps all areas of your business because it’s based on emotions and we touched on scarcity, but have you noticed any other examples?

Yeah. Where emotions affect our lives specifically around business. So because it’s about noticing when they appear, right? So are there any that tend to keep appearing for you or that you are aware that they are prevalent? Yeah. I think you know, I can give people powerful tools that could help them identify those things because yeah, every single all the things we’re doing are driven by thoughts and emotions you know in your business. If you look this is the challenge that I give anyone listening take anything that you don’t habit or pattern or something you’re seeing in your business and write it down, write down what it is and then write down what are the actions, what are the actions that drive those that outcome that you’re experiencing that you don’t like? And then what are the thoughts and emotions? What are your judgments of yourself when you take those actions when you see that outcome? And then from there, what do you feel like it means about you?

You know when you make a mistake in business or you’re experiencing maybe having a really hard time with finding new clients, things like that. What do you feel like it means about you? Because we take it personally. We take our business a lot. A lot of times. We can define our business is a reflection of us and in some ways that that can be a helpful thing in other ways. it could be unhealthy. So identifying, what does it mean about you when you have that outcome, You’re having a hard time getting clients? What are the worst judgment you have of yourself? And what do you think it means about you? Those are the things, Those are the stories. And this is if I could sum up the importance of this idea, like this is what I highlight. You are not the thoughts you think are the emotions you feel you’re not those things. You’re not like a lot of times I’m a failure. That’s a really big one. I see with people in business, I’m a failure and I’m not good enough. Those are huge.

I actually haven’t met a business person yet who hasn’t struggled with that in some way or another. Those things are not you, their ideas that are running inside your mind, they don’t define you, they’re not, they’re not who you are, they’re your greatest teachers. They’re showing you things about yourself. And so if you can go into it, identify it and a lot of times Thomas it’s not easy. It can be very painful to identify, oh my gosh, I have been this idea of I’m not good enough has been driving me my whole life or this idea that I’m a failure. Most people want to hide that they want to, they want to shove that down and hide it and they do one of two things, they’re going to give up mode or they go into overcompensation, overcompensation is work, work, work and I will do do do to make it happen to prove that I am not a failure. And the other side is give up mode.

And there’s a whole spectrum, everyone between give up mode is I’m a failure and so I’m gonna settle on every part of my life. Just gonna do, I’m gonna skin by do my very, the very least amount that I can do because I’m going to fail anyway. And there’s everyone in the scale, there’s some of us that maybe find that a little bit more and finds a little bit more success, but still struggle with that idea. And so identifying those things and letting them go such a huge part of the process. So, to answer your question. Yeah, I think so. And I think you’ve highlighted one for me which perhaps you can give me your thoughts on, which is because I have like a fairly, fairly good, at least relative to most people education on self-development. So I’m aware of like setting goals and how you should go about setting goals. But as you, as you said with the card example, like if you’re checking out with your card, there is during that process, there’s a little thing in the back of your mind and perhaps in my example is like, is, you know, am I actually going to be able to do this type thing?

So I’m saying that that was the right way, etcetera, but you know, do I actually believe that I can achieve it? and have you got any thoughts on that? Yeah, one of those, one of the things that I encourage, you know, I’ve had those moments and personally what I, what I’ve done and what I recommend to clients is when you go to swipe that card or when you go to pay that bill or when you go to take some action in your business, take a moment and just check in what are your most dominant thoughts right now, And a lot of times I’ll take a deep breath, I’ll hear the old story of, I’m worried there’s not gonna be enough, I’ll take a deep breath in and I’ll say that’s not accurate, that’s not true, that’s an old story, I’m letting it go and just breathe out and then I allow myself to feel this, this feeling of gratitude, thank you, I have more than enough, I’m always supported and then swipe my card and I can just take two seconds.

But when you take that action and you’re starting to train your brain that when you do this, when you swipe your card, you feel positive emotions of gratitude again, It’s a rewiring of the brain. So you’ve unknowingly wire the brain to when you swipe your card to feel and think, I don’t know if I have enough, I’m scared, I’m nervous, I’m worried there might not be enough. And so it’s a matter now of retraining yourself to that space of positive emotions. And if you can get to that space where you take a deep breath, let go and get into gratitude, even think you can think of anything you’re grateful for, it doesn’t necessarily have to be money, Just be in a state of gratitude as you are swiping that card. It starts rewiring your brain to this new place of swiping the card is gratitude and it will transform little things like that. That’s what people don’t understand. It really is little things over time that build our big constructs of business and money.

And so that’s one tip that I would recommend is when you’re paying bills or when you’re swiping your card, get into a state of gratitude as you do? Well, that’s actually a direct analogy for my other example, which is, can you, can you achieve a goal? And I was like, do you have enough? Do you have enough to achieve that goal? Is basically works the same way with swiping your card, right? What? Take a moment interrupt the pattern, I think as you referred to it and then check in and see whether you have enough and you know, mostly if you set a realistic goal or actually an achievable one rather, then maybe you do have enough right? And you know I tell people this all the time, you know cycles and set yourself up for success. Yes, but the only, the only way you fail as if you give up, that’s the only way you do. You know if you look, I have never met a single person who has big goals in their life.

These huge goals they want to meet in business and life whatever that they don’t fall down along the way. They don’t make mistakes along the way. I’ve never, ever and you know what I used to teach goal setting where people would map out their 90 big goal, they map out all the stuff they have to take in order to achieve it so they know what it is. Well, they never follow that path. And I did that for 5, 4.5, 5 years. I never saw birds and once follow that exact path all the way through. But it’s for good reason there’s a good reason we fall, there’s a good reason we make mistakes. It’s because it teaches us it educates us on things so that we can become a better business owner, a better person. We can understand the area. We’re working in better mistakes are some of the greatest gifts we just got to stop taking it personally and you know I had a friend the other day asked me as I started this business, she said, you know what, you could time travel and put yourself at the most successful point in business right now, would you?

And I thought about it and I said, no, no, because if I took who I am now and transferred me to that moment and lived that moment forward, I would make mistakes. I wouldn’t be able to handle it all because the mistakes I make and the education I have all along the way in order to that most successful point is what’s going to continue my success. That wisdom is vital to, to bettering ourselves. You know, just like as Children, we knew so little about the world, but as we’ve gotten older, you know, there’s a wisdom that comes through trial and air through falling down through mistakes. And so, um, I just, I think that if we set ourselves up for this, this place of setting these goals in business and our dreams, and we only see the with rose-coloured glasses of, oh, this is gonna be so much fun and it’s going to be perfect and it’s going to be smooth and I’m going to make this happen and I’m gonna be successful tomorrow.

It’s like that’s not setting yourself up for success, You will fall, you will make mistakes, you will have quote unquote failures. The question is, can you get back up and get moving again and what does that look like for you and to me that that is the difference between someone who is successful and someone who’s not is really that willingness and ability to stand back up after you’ve fallen and continue moving. That’s why I think emotional resiliency, this emotional resiliency coaching that I do is vital to that you have to have emotional resiliency in order to get back up to put yourself back in the arena and move forward. It’s just, it’s part of the deal. Great answer. Can I ask you about your goals? Yeah, yeah. You have some business goals you want to share? Sure. Yeah. So this year, we, me and my team, I have three other team members that we started this business called Inner World Movement and it’s helping people become aware of these ideas that we’ve shared today, become aware of emotional education, emotional intelligence, Getting tools to help them move forward in lots of different areas.

And so some of my business goals this year we have business goal to be and have 150 podcast interviews or more this year. So thank you for helping me achieve a little step in that process. I really do appreciate it, Thomas, a lot. Gain a presence on social media because we’re just starting and we want to really offer value, going to offer tips and ideas and things are going to help people. So we want to establish a following on social media, and then we have a goal to do monthly community classes, community gatherings in, in our area right now and we’re also, we want to expand. So if there’s anyone who wants to gather a group of people and, and have a topic that they talk about and, and teach about, we’d love to come out, that’s part of what we want to do, but here in our little hub in Utah’s, we’re just starting, that’s one of our goals this year. Um, and then a group coaching course.

I’m working on a group coaching course called The Art of Discernment with my business partner in Italian Yates. And, and we’re working on that and so we have a goal to launch that this year. So those are our year goals for this year. We have some big picture ideas of what we want, um, big picture, uh, goals and for this year, as we accomplish those things, we’ve decided that’s a successful year this year and just taking it one year at a time, one step at a time. I have a personal goal to have 77 regular clients every single week um, of the month and that’s where I’m at right now. So those are some Michael’s particularly like the 150 podcasts, one really just because um, if you do that, then most likely that’s going to result in some business, I would imagine, um, you’re not business, but you’re focused on, it’s kind of like a micro goal, it reminds me of that, it’s like if you achieve that micro goal then you’re macro goal, maybe it will be achieved.

So I, I really like that. Yeah, I like that one too, I like that a lot and I’m excited. One of my favourite parts about the podcast is just meeting new people, you know, people like you that are making a difference in in different parts of our world and it’s so beautiful and we connect the synergy of, of supporting each other and promoting each other. Like, we’re going to put this on our website, this will be we have a little media, a media page where we’re putting all of our podcast, this will be on our website and this will be there for other people to find your podcast and I love this kind of work. I love when we can support each other in our goals and what we’re doing, it’s to me it’s the whole point of goals, it’s amazing when I experience success. But if I can experience success and help thousands of other people experience success along the way, that is a win for life for me. I want that throughout my whole life. I want to take as many people with me as possible. Love the enthusiasm. Have you, would you like to share anything that perhaps we haven’t talked about today that would be valuable to the audience?

Yeah, actually, there is one thing that has popped up a couple of times in this conversation and you know, it may be a unique topic in this area. Maybe it’s not, I don’t know, but I felt it several times for anyone listening this area. I find a lot of times, especially in goal setting and business, there’s a lot of self-beat up. We beat ourselves up about unmet goals, unmet dreams and when we get into the cycle of self-beat up, then you go into you know, the, the inner voices get loud, you go into this negative self-talk and it repeats these cycles and I really, really want to invite people to explore more self-compassion, treating yourself like you would a good friend, Kristin Neff, K R I S T I N N F F, Kristin Neff has done a phenomenal job on research on this.

She has a website, self-dash compassion dot org that I highly recommend with free practices, free meditations for an understanding of foundation of if you can have self-compassion, I’d say if you’re not going to get a coach, this could be a key tool in your success and emotional resiliency. self-compassion when you fall down, treat yourself like you would a good friend talk to yourself like you would a good friend or a child. So think of someone you loved dearly, how would you treat them and treat yourself that way? I think that is something that could help, you know, I really felt the last three years of my life has probably been some of the hardest years I’ve ever had and this was a lifesaving tool to really get into a space where I’m kind to myself, You know, I was several years ago speaking on stages in front of anywhere between 200-600 people and I committed to myself because I found this pattern when I get off stage, I’d pick up all of the things I did wrong and, and many of us, I know that people can relate to this in business when you make a mistake, you repeat over and over and over in your brain, all the things you did wrong.

And so I made a commitment to myself and, and this is true and can translate in anyone listening in their business when I get off that stage, I committed to myself to have self-compassion, to be kind to myself, to cheerlead myself to say things in my head like dana, You did amazing, you rocked that, that was phenomenal. Did you see their faces, did you see how, how much they enjoyed that and then pick one thing that I can improve on, You know, it doesn’t happen. One thing for everyone, you can do 123 things but pick some things to improve on. And I love improvement. And so I was like, okay, next time I’m going to do this and it’s going to be better here and it became a really fun process for me. And so, I would say that that self-compassion can be one of your greatest tolls treating yourself like you do a good friend because it creates positive cycles for yourself when you fall down, when you make mistakes and it will help you through so that you don’t have as much fear taking risks because we have fear taking risks because we beat ourselves up if you know, at the end of a risk, if you make a mistake, there’s going to be a big man holding a stick that’s gonna beat you, you’re gonna be scared, you’re going to be scared.

And so taking it and knowing there’s gonna be somebody there to hug you and to be kind to you and just say kind things to you that you will take more beautiful and wonderfully kind risks, which it’s all risky, but those are important. And so taking that time to commit 100 if I’m doing my business and if I fall, I’m going to be generously kind to myself and I’m gonna learn and grow and I’m gonna be better next time. That commitment will transform how you do business Well, thanks for sharing that because I think it’s a great point. It’s poignant to me as well. So I’m particularly hard on myself and I wouldn’t treat anyone else like that. So I think having that principle and some, sometimes I’ve heard the example of, you know, how would you treat yourself if you were younger, you know, how would you talk to yourself if you were younger and you were trying to encourage yourself?

You also touched on, I think, something that Brian Tracy advocates, which is what did you do well and what would you do differently? Yeah, it just reminded me of that, but yeah, that’s a great answer. Thank you very much for that. And can you share where the best place for people to find you is? Yeah, so Inner World Movement dot com is our website and if you go into coaching you can read a little bit about me, what people are talking about as they coach with me. Read a little bit about the empowerment cycle in there and then on our media page you can hear podcasts. We’ve been on what we’re up to. we do have a book to on there that people can look at. The book is helping people wake up in the area of spirituality and religion, actually. And so emotional education applies across the board, not just in business, but in all areas and as you improve, one area can affect the others really beautifully.

So, but I think that innerworldmovement.com is going to be the best place to get a hold of us. I would love to speak to anyone. I love coaching people who are in business. I’ve been in it and it’s one of my most favourite areas to help people understand and the foundation that’s taught the foundation I teach, you can apply to every area to me. These are life skills and life tools that help you improve every area of your life, not just business. And so it’s well worth the investment of stepping into that. Okay, well, I’ve really enjoyed the conversation today. So if you do along the way, if you do let’s say you’re 130 podcasts in or something like that and you’re struggling to find another one. Feel free to get back in touch because I have enjoyed it. I’m so grateful. Thank you so much Thomas. I have thoroughly enjoyed your conversation and your questions. Thank you.

Thank you. And I wish you the very best with all your endeavours and I will speak to you soon.

Sounds so good. Thank you.