The Superpower Of Joy With Jan Hoath

Thomas Green here with Ethical Marketing Service. On the podcast today we have Jan Hoath. Jan, welcome.

Hello. Thank you so much for having me.

It is my pleasure. Would you like to take a moment and tell the audience a bit about yourself and what you do?

I shall gladly dive in right there, although how much time do we have? So my name is Jan Hoath and I am known as the Queen of Joy, a mindful mentor and a whole bunch of other things including mom and wife and community leader. I live in Jackson Hole, Wyoming where I work primarily virtually. And yet my mission and what I do in the world is I bring joy, especially to busy entrepreneurs and leaders who kind of forgot their joy along the way because what I’ve learned over my lifetime and what I’ve found in the hundreds of entrepreneurs and leaders that I have already worked with, is Joy is a superpower. Who knew it’s actually the basis of everything because it is an energy and it’s the way we show up in our life and our business that makes all the difference and the actions that we take. And so I essentially help leaders find their sole superpower of joy and from there go out and make the impact they came here to make and have great lives and have happy families in the process.

Thank you for the introduction. I do have a whole long list of things that I get to ask you about, but to start off with believe it or not, when people look at me, they don’t often say you just you know, you look so joyful. In fact I have had many people say are you okay? Like my default setting is not joyful. So what advice would you give someone in that particular scenario?

First and foremost, the reason I love teaching Joy and being really I guess essentially the authority in joy is for me, joy is an acronym of Just Own You. And I personally get yeah, I have a big smile, I know I have a very vibrant presence, but that’s not everybody’s default, that’s not who you are, that’s who I am. And so when I’m working with individuals and you know, even just having a conversation like we are, you know, the invitation is understanding that joy and happiness is personal. And sometimes it’s bouncing off the wall happy and sometimes it’s a beautiful contentment and yet it’s personal. It doesn’t need to be for other people either. It’s for you. So my invitation is always to just own you and look, that may not be that, you know, bubbly outgoing person, but I’m not meant to be you and you are definitely not meant to be me. So just owning you is my little tidbit there.

Well I think I’m talking to you would be a good start for me, so I appreciate you being on the episode today. But you touched on something which is about who you are. And the first question is how to discover who you really are. So what are your thoughts there?

Well it is a discovery and it’s really a never ending discovery process really because I kind of believe it’s like well, we’re still walking around this planet and whatever your, you know, spiritual religious beliefs are, I believe we come into this physical form and call ourselves human and we get to experience life in this way. But I do believe there’s something and so much more beyond that. And yet I do believe there is an exploratory process. And what I personally do believe too is that this life is a gift and we get to choose how we relate to it, how we receive it, how we experience it. And the question of, like, who am I and what is that to just on me, for example, is truly a moment to moment evolutionary experience. So I actually teach on the basis of mindful joy and starting with mindfulness as I define it as present moment awareness. And so it invites the thoughts to come and centre of like well who am I today, who am I right now and what does that look like? What does that feel like? What do I get to experience at this space? Because really, you know, whatever author speaker thought leader you use, you communicate with or connect with.

The truth is all we have is now, you know, time is a human construct. You know, past and future. The past is in the past, the future is yet to come. So all we have is now and what I always invite my clients and audience to do is look at, well who my today and where am I at? And then that’s kind of like a GPS and that’s the starting point, like when you get into your car, when you go out on a trail, you know, hurray for digital devices now that we have that opportunity to have a GPS, the global positioning system. Like well where am I at emotionally today? And that’s where the mindful joy piece comes in. But then where do I want to head? Where do I want to go, you know, personally and professionally? And then looking at that space and then looking at, well what’s going to take to get there? And that’s where the discovery process gets really interesting because it’s like, okay, I’m here now, I want to be there, whatever that is, whether it’s a, you know, professional outcome, some kind of a goal in your business and what you’re creating in realising, well, I’m not there, so what’s it gonna take to be there?

Well, what I would essentially say is it’s actually joy is both the destination and the journey. And yet in the discovery process we get to see, wow, you know, it’s not always roses and rainbows as much as I like roses, rainbows and unicorns. And yet realising that that personal discovery processes, it’s actually sifting and sorting through preferences. I did this action that felt good, I did this action, it didn’t feel good. And then that is part of the process of everyday tuning into, wow, what did I like about that, What didn’t I like about that? What do I think about this now and then realising like I’m, you know, happily in my fourth decade, around the sun and it’s like, wow, what I enjoy and what I found valuable and who I am today is very different in many ways for myself 20 years ago, but then there’s some core items that are pretty consistent, that I’m a happy person and I love people and I love connection, so that’s kind of a long answer to your question, but the discovery process of like who are you or who am I? It really does get to be a journey and it gets to be a beautiful one if you let it.

Well, I was going to say about being in the present versus thinking about the past or you know, in the future, there are, I think most people agree with, they need to be more in the present, but struggle with the actual how to do that. But would you say your answer to that is basically checking in regularly?

Yes, I mean, I have a personal process and a framework that came to me over numerous challenging circumstances that I experienced in my life and it’s certainly more sophisticated process, but simple terms checking in with the now is the quickest way to get into present moment awareness, like especially if something’s really stressful at work or in your personal life, you know what just happened, you know, I don’t know why, but like a car crash is coming up like, okay, car crash happens, alright, that happened, where am I at right now?

Like right now don’t go into what’s this going to cost to repair and you know what’s broken whatever, but tuning in like where am I at right now? And that question along with breathing because part of what I do teach and promote is also meditation and yet meditation for many sounds like a big task. But meditation can be simplified to just breathe deeply and pause for a second because that can make all the difference between taking the next step in what you’re about to do in a place of power or a place of disempowerment for the answer on the topic of the difference between joy and happiness. The definition there when you use the word joy, are you using it in the general kind of societal definition or are you using it from a just your own perspective?

What do you think? I’m so curious of your opinion but yeah, I mean I have you know the way I feel about happiness and joy in really any words is like the author speaker, thought leader Eckhart Tolle talks about words are just sign posts to something more and you know we could sit here and especially you know we’re in different cultures, we could sit here and talk about what’s the cultural definition of happiness and joy, what’s the, you know, societal, what’s your personal and when it comes down to it, the way I do teach it and live by is the invitation of like what it is to just own you today, like what does that look like? What does that feel like? Because just like anything when we try to live under a definition that we can’t wind up with, it’s always going to be clunky and it’s not going to work out. So the way I do come down to it is ultimately, and I, you know, part of my story is early on and connected with this framework I was starting to talk about called the happiness prism, because happiness to me was joy, but then I started reading people who didn’t understand that presence of happiness that I attuned to, and that’s when I started to get into this notion of well, joy for many people is this internal job, and happiness is an external influential experience.

And that’s when I really started to discover that it’s personal, it’s really personal, and I always invite my audiences and clients to tune into what what’s going to serve you to get out of bed in the day to move forward on that task, and especially to move forward on some challenging things because especially as a business owner, as you know, it’s not always, you know an easy step and in fact especially being an entrepreneur, it’s downright challenging because you’re trailblazing pretty much every day, there’s certain tasks and things that you’re up to that yes, you can get best practices from furious colleagues, mentors, but at the end of the day it’s you on your path moving forward and what’s going to light you up to tune into that sole superpower, as I like to say, that’s going to have you move forward in a way that’s really going to be serving impactful and of course generate the business growth that you’re seeking, it reminds me of because I have often talked about the definition of success, so and I use l nightingales if you fared well and his is the progressive realization of a worthy ideal, but I often catch myself using the term success, which is like the societal definition, So do you sort of go to and from what they might be or you just pull on with just own you Well, yes, I mean again and I love that you brought in the definition of success as well because I think that’s really also ultimately, you know, these are big, there are little words, but big life topics and you know, this is where I start to go big vision and you know, I’ve had some personal experiences that caused me to ask these bigger questions, but it’s like ultimately thinking about like when you get to the end of this life whenever that is, and you know, the whole notion that when we’re on our deathbed, you know, we’re not gonna question most of people question and regret not making the most of this life and realise that ultimately it’s not necessarily all the achievements that we care about as much as in the moment, that short term happiness, that short term pleasure, but not necessarily sustaining.

And that’s where the invitation and really the basis of my work comes into really enjoying from an internal place, moment to moment, the experience, the connections, the relationships, the impact we get to have, the experience we get to have even just witnessing others in their joy. And so to kind of answer the question, yes, I do come back to it. It’s a personal experience, whether it’s joy or success or any of that, because again, when we go outside of ourselves to fulfil something that’s mad in our heart, not in our soul, it’s never going to be satisfying. And that is where we get to that regret in life. I have been thinking about, you know, if you were at the end of your life, and it’s like a continual thing, but it’s come back up recently. And one of the things I know that there are, I think there’s five big ones that tend to repeat.

But one of the ones which I’ve thought about recently is just worrying, which kind of you touch on that if you were able to be in the present moment, you wouldn’t be worrying about the future perhaps. But have you made any conclusions about how you live your life based on the fact that at some stage we’re going to be looking back on it?

Yeah. Well, and if I can share a tender story, because I feel like this really helps explain for the gravity of why I stand where I stand with all this. And I before we started, I mentioned I have an Australian husband and his folks were over visiting us and this was back in 2007. And it was so wonderful, had so much fun having them come over and staying with my folks. And we ended up letting them go out on a bike ride and my in laws were on their own and they’re in the United States. And about an hour later, we got a dreaded phone call, like the dreaded phone call. My mother in law being Australian looked the wrong way when she went across the road and she was tragically struck and killed. And it was shortly after she had gone into retirement. She and her husband had all of these plans. We had all these plans. And then the gravity of the experience – because it turned out very dramatic. I don’t need to go into details – but it was so fascinating because I had moments of regret that I, you know, married my husband, because if we hadn’t gotten married, maybe this wouldn’t have happened, she would have come over to us to America and then thinking about the regret of all the life they didn’t get to live because they were, you know, working towards her retirement and all of these pieces and just being so viscerally inside of that experience of like, witnessing my father in law, feeling so much regret, I was like, wow, you know, it just makes everything come front and centre to the moment of like, how am I living this day, this moment, this breath to the fullest, and you know, I know so many people listening can identify in some capacity to that experience, but I realised that was actually the catalyst for me starting my coaching business up until then, I had known I wanted to coach people and having great lives, and at this point it was like, I can’t wait any longer.

People need to understand how do you approach this life from that space? And it really does come down to present moment awareness when you’re in present moment awareness, when you’re tuning into what feels really good inside, because her emotions are a guidance system. When a situation feels good, we share love, we share compassion, we share compliments, we share ideas, were generous, we’re serving and uplifting and life giving to others. And when we are in that present moment space, that’s when we have quality over quantity. That’s where I have, I have two beautiful children and that’s where I can have a card game before breakfast and then dive into a podcast and feel great about myself, knowing that I’m being all of who I’m meant to be in this look and it’s from that space that I can wholeheartedly say that I if I did, you know, croaked today right now after this podcast, I’d feel great about myself because I know I showed up, I know I shared my heart with everyone that matters and I noticed that I’m being and doing what I’m meant to be in do now.

Do I have bigger visions and desires? Absolutely. But that that is the part where I also teach you and that’s a mindfulness piece of non-attachment in realising that, you know, we can strive for a goal and an intention and what we’re building and our businesses or personal endeavours. I happen to be a runner and a skier and a server. I just really appreciate exploring what’s possible in my potential as a human being as much as a thought leader. But I also recognise that as much as I can have these big desires and visions that my human brain is also very limited into what’s possible and when I let myself go and say well I’m going to show up, be the best that I can be in and do the best that I can do and then hand the rest over and have that non attachment factor that mindfulness teaches then that all the more allows for that space of really the no regrets and what it does is yes, it completely alleviates worry because worry is a waste of energy, it’s doing nothing because it’s sitting there and it’s having a thought and its future based and that’s where I always bring people back into, well it’s so now and what can we do now? Like what can we do now and then now and then? No, so kind of a lie answer of it.

I’m sorry to hear about the story but thank you for sharing it anyway. And you did mention your prism, Is it the happiness prism that you said you want to share what that is?

I would love to. Yes. So the happiness prism is a framework that I discovered through three major monumental circumstances that I experienced in life, including the tragic loss of my mother in law and it was through that that I discovered the energy and element of progress that I realised on a really day to day moment that when we are progressing, we feel good in life and I define progress as purpose in motion. Well, earlier in my life journey as a teenager, I actually experienced severe depression and through that depression when I was really questioning this world in this life and I was taking antidepressants, happy pills that I hated and just realise something is not it, this is not it, I knew that there was something more, but I didn’t know what it was and I had an angel in the form of a German substitute teacher show up in my life who said, Hey Jan, I think you might appreciate applying for the scholarship to be an exchange student in Germany and all the light bulbs went out inside of me thinking, wow, I can leave this town in this life that I know and go be someone else.

And I poured my heart into the application, I ended up getting the scholarship and I ended appealing myself from depression because I wasn’t exactly, this was back in the nineties, wasn’t exactly going to go overseas before internet and everything else and have minimal communication. and realised that by having a playful future, I essentially healed myself and play, I define as joy in motion and that’s the other side of the happiness prism. And yet realising between play and progress, there was still something missing. So flash forward in my life. I have an amazing son, he’s six weeks old and I have a two year old daughter and it was such a fascinating morning. We woke up and he was happy and chirpy and I was changing his little onesie and then the next thing, you know, something’s not right, his arm was swollen.

And about eight hours later I find myself in the cancer wing of the Children’s Hospital. We don’t know if it’s cancer, but it’s life threatening, whatever is going on with him. And up until then I was life coaching. I was doing a lot of personal growth and working a lot with my clients on mindset. But in that space I realised I couldn’t think my way out of this, I couldn’t create a new thought that was going to change this outcome at this very moment. All I knew was this is beyond me and this is not how this story ends. I was adamant that his story doesn’t end this way in mind, doesn’t end this way as his mother. And yet at that time though, waterworks tears and just looking and around this dark hospital room thinking help, I need help. And that was really when I first gave myself over to something more like this is not on religious, this is spiritual, this is realising that again, you know, there’s something more beyond this limited human brain inside of me, but I don’t know what it is, but I’m just going to surrender and ultimately tune into the energy of peace, which I define as prayer in motion and through that experience.

I realised that rounded out my happiness prism, that when we honour play peace and progress that we are ultimately optimised in this joy energy and we get to experience happiness and that’s ultimately how we move forward in life with no regrets life. Now, as far as the story goes with my son, he is a thriving nine year old boys actually downstairs right now. Well, I’m here with you. Um, yes, and what we ultimately experience Inside of the hospital over those 12 excruciating days was I honoured these energies, I’m talking about here, play peace and progress. And this actually leads to one of my other stories that I’m known for, and that is the next morning after I had opened up and said help the next morning as a breastfeeding mother. I could order off the menu and look, we’re in a Children’s hospital and through my tears, I realised I could order something called Froot Loops.

I don’t know if you know what Fruit Loops are, but they’re a cheesy American cereal that are really colourful, really not healthy. And so the first voice that came to me was you can’t order that, that’s not nutritional for you or for your child. And then the next larger voice, a higher version of myself  said, Oh yeah, you’re going to order the Fruit Loops and you’re going to enjoy it. And so that’s what I did. I ordered the Fruit Loops. I watched all the colours swirl around the really not natural but so colourful and beautiful. And I eat those Froot Loops. And you know what it put me in that joy state that I was talking about earlier in which science has now proven that spiritual leaders have known for centuries is that we’re in a clearer state of mind. We’re at a higher level of consciousness or efficient, more effective, more creative, more innovative. But it was from that state that that was my play that day.

And then the next part is I took some breaths and tuned in and let myself cry and grieve whatever was happening. But then I got clear headed and then that’s how I progressed and was able to have the tough conversations with the doctors making the tough decisions. I don’t know if you’ve ever been in a medical crisis, but the doctors tell you all of their whoa and you know, terrible news. And then they say, make a decision. It’s like, oh, great. You know, which is the lesser of two evils. Well, I was able to be in a sound state to advocate for my son and then, as you already know, the story ends with a happy ending. But what’s really cool is we actually never got a medical diagnosis and then it was ultimately decided that he is a medical miracle. Even the doctors were saying that they were blown away, that we got out of there, that he healed even though we had this dip in wonder and indescribable medical physical experience.

And yet I ultimately do you believe that through my joy and the happiness prism and obviously all the support that came from the doctors and even him, like my son was just lying there smiling at me pretty much the whole time, even when there was a dip in his help, but it was still an amazing experience and that’s what I found since then though, is with the happiness prison, which I apply to my daily life. But I also apply it to vision, projecting I support my clients and generating their life vision their day vision through the happiness prism. And what I have found is this experience unanimously that people realise that’s when they do have that experience when they hit their head on the pillow at night, but they’re satisfied that they showed up, They were present with their family, they were present in their business and then they’re also most effective in moving forward and whatever actions those work that day.

Another great answer. Thank you. One of the things that struck me was I think lots of people have let’s say, positive and negative experiences in their life, but not everyone creates these sort of, I don’t know would you say, strategies or thought processes? Do you have any thoughts there on why or how you were able to do that?

Well, I mean very humbly, I feel like I was divinely blessed to be able to have that outlook that as sake as something gets that there is going to be a silver lining, I don’t think everyone has that outlook early on, but I do believe that that’s trainable and that’s what’s really cool about positive psychologist Shawn Achor has discovered that they used to think that we, as human beings have like a set point for our happiness. But they’ve actually found that when you train the brain to essentially look for the good, you know, in any image, in any experience, you can always see the negative or the positive, but if you actually train your brain to look for the good, you will build neuro pathways that will have, you see that more and more.

It’s kind of like when you decide you want a new car and then all of a sudden you see that car everywhere. It’s the same phenomenon that happens when you start to look for the good. So I do believe I was predisposed early on to try to look for the silver lining if you will, and then I also harnessed and sharpened that skill through these practices that I both teach and breathe essentially. But anyone can train their brain to start looking for the good. But first and foremost, before we even get to that point, my invitation is always for people to look at whatever is happening to them to realise it’s happening for you as an opportunity to learn and grow through a lot of times. And I know early on I had these moments to until I really harness the skill was we can have victim mentality like poor me, this is happening to me, what am I going to do?

And we get into a place of disempowerment, but when you start to look at and shift the focus to, okay, why is this happening for me? What can I learn from this and how can I grow through this? And then as I now speak to and invite people into what’s the fruit moment here? Like what’s something that I can look for that’s going to make me laugh. That’s, it’s fascinating to me ever since realizing the Fruit Loop moment is that even in the safest circumstances and I even look back at when we lost my mother in law and I can vividly remember a moment where we were all gathered around the dinner table and I can’t remember how many nights after this was, but there was a joyous laughter and there was a joyous moment. And so I also invite everyone and encourage everyone to realise that even in the creamiest of circumstances there is a rainbow. You know, we talk about like the darkest of clouds create some of the most beautiful sunny days afterwards in order the most beautiful rainbow does.

And so realizing it’s not an either or it’s an ant. And that’s something that I also feel called to speak to you because I think that’s a lot of times, you know, I show up in a conversation like this and it’s like, well she’s happy, you know, she just is naturally that way. And it’s like, yes, I do believe at some point I was predisposed a little bit. But I also have this passionate desire to realise that I can grow through these challenging spaces to find the joy again and this is available to everyone and to realise that it’s not just the joy. It’s the not joy as I describe it, that offers the contrast. It’s just like the stars at night. We can’t see the stars until it’s night. They’re always there though. And so realizing that we all have challenging circumstances and you know, there might be people listening that are amid some really challenging ones. And my invitation is don’t step over that.

Let yourself be human and that. But also look for the fruit loops. Look for the little joys that can bring that boost of energy and boost of possibility outlook and then realise that over time it does become a stronger trained muscle in which ultimately this is what’s super cool is that that’s when you start attracting more and more opportunities that are in your favour, that you desire in your life. Well, the very, very least I’m gonna have to see if I can get my hands on some fruit loops for a difficult day. I know I have, I can’t tell you how many clients and audience members that have reached back to me and said, I keep a box of Froot loops on my desk. Now I remember you don’t just look for him because it’s such an absurd thing, but it’s so hilarious because it’s so simple and that’s the thing about it. Although is I think so many people forget how simple and beautiful this life is.

Like I actually invite anyone listening to stop what you’re doing and look around and just look for one little thing that you can see a little bit of joy in. You don’t even have to go anywhere or do anything but there, I promise you there is something beautiful, even in the tiniest of things, whether it’s nature, you can see a witty advertisement or you even what’s really cool with mindfulness when you’re so present, You get to see a beautiful interaction between two people or you can see like the butterfly land on the flower or you can see something that you wouldn’t have seen before. But you can actually look for a moment right now and you can generate it like a minute or less as you’re following starts to grow. You might have to consider asking them for some sort of commission though. Yes maybe. But you know what, I just so believe that the more I really do believe joy to the world starts with me. It starts with you and when we do build on this, I don’t need a commission, I just need to smile and I just want to know people are out there living their best lives because we all benefit from that.

You just have to be careful that you don’t get too many counter offers from other serial providers. Well, it was fruit loops that I had in the anyway. Yes. What is the ripple effect? Oh, the ripple effect really is the energy that we generate in the world. I mean that’s part of the idea of the prism is that when we have as human beings are lit up and our best selves that we radiate out in the world. But when you are optimised you radiate rain bows. And that ripple effect idea is and is the idea that you are having impact. We are all influencing and impacting each other positive or negative. And yet when we take personal responsibility for our own joy for own life experience, we realised that we actually can have an influence that creates that ripple effect. That actually ultimately becomes a ricochet effect where it comes back to us and then it becomes like an upward spiral.

But the idea is ultimately for each one of us to recognise that, you know, whether we’re intending to through business or we just care about having our family and loved ones in good places, that when we are in our best versions of ourselves, we naturally create a ripple effect energetically. We don’t even have to say anything. That’s something that’s super cool. They have scientifically proven that when we’re in a physical space and we’re just feeling great, we can create a force field around 30 ft in diameter, which is super cool. You can be sitting on the tube and you can be generating joy and positivity and possibility for people in the train next to you. Or you can be sitting in your car or you can be sitting your household, like my son’s downstairs. I mean me and my door right now, I’m bringing joy to my household. It’s super awesome that when we start to realise that we can have that influence, that there is a gorgeous ripple effect that does take place.

But then also realizing the reverse is also true that when we take that personal responsibility, that when we’re in a not great place, it becomes a reverse vacuum, we actually pull energy from others. And so the it’s kind of a loving nudge here to realise you’re impacting people you might as well might as well make it great. Well, you’re currently um, it’s not 30 ft across countries at this point. So I know that’s the fun thing right about internet and digital format, which I’m so thankful for that we can have this school conversation and yeah, we’re across continents so cool. Is there any misconceptions about what you do totally? That it’s nice to have the biggest misconception that people are like, oh, when, you know, I get that next promotion or when the kids are out of the house will take time for me or when I get this thing figured out and it’s like you know, joy is not nice to have, it’s actually, it’s actually a medicine because when you are in a cancer doesn’t live in joy just for example.

I mean that’s really part of what I believe, how we heal my son. But cancer diseases doesn’t live in joy and you might not have that someday and to actually fulfil that someday vision of yours or you know, anyone listening joy is actually the path to get there. The path to fulfilment with satisfaction. Um, whereas when we wait to feel joy, when we wait to feel happiness, we might not ever get there. And the fact that it’s inside of us first and foremost as the starting point, that’s why it’s mindful joy as I was talking about earlier with the GPS. But so many people think that, well, if I just get my business structures together, if I just get this thing handled, then I can find joy. But the truth is when you are in that space of joy, that level of consciousness that is essentially to below enlightenment, you’ll actually have greater clarity and you’ll actually have greater receptivity and creative and innovativeness to be able to put those structures in place and to be able to have the wherewithal to follow through on them because as you know, as an entrepreneur, you have to show up every day no matter what and if you’re in that space of your sole superpower of joy, you’re actually more likely to succeed.

So all this to say the biggest misconception that joy is nice to have some days, and I’m actually here to say joy is the starting point. Everything else gets to be built from there, but it really is the basis of everything. Great answer. have you got any thoughts on like the typical business owner? I would imagine that there is a typical say behaviour that they follow and how they can implement some of the things that we’ve talked about today, what would you advise them? Well, I would say especially the typical leader entrepreneur, it’s, you know, we tend to be workaholics, we tend to want to push through, get it done and like build room overnight and so the way to implement the happiness prism is, and it’s really simple and this is what my clients are always blown away by. It’s just starting off simply, but it’s starting off with play, it’s starting off with a frequent moment and it doesn’t have to take long, like I said, there was a mad card game this morning before breakfast, like that was a family connection, um, but it doesn’t have to take long, it can be personal, it can be high energy playful or it can be very quiet and peaceful.

I mean sometimes even meditation now it’s taken me a while to get to this point, but meditation can be playful for me because I tap into visions and experiences in meditation that bring me joy. but just taking a few minutes just for enjoyment factor, nothing else, like no agenda other than to attune to that good feeling inside. And like I said, it could be simple, like even just sipping a cup of coffee but really enjoying it And then step two is taking some deep breaths Tuning in, really centring and again, it doesn’t have to take long, although it is nice if you can take like 10 or 20 minutes to meditate or to journal or to just reflect or quietly walk in nature or to just be aware in general of the space you’re in or if people are tuned into their own care practices, whatever that is, but tuning into peace and then from there, looking at what are the most strategic actions that I can take that will really move the needle forward.

And this is the space where my clients are always blown away at the results that they get because a lot of times when they’re taking the time for playing piece, things are starting in motion. That that’s when they go into their email and there’s a whole bunch of responses or there’s messages of like I want to connect or that long outstanding clients finally shows up again. And so what’s really cool about this process is it’s essentially even for especially the solo printer that it lets a team of, if you will spiritual warriors do a lot of your work for you instead of trying to do it all yourself. Because I do think that’s one of the biggest challenges that entrepreneurs and leaders faces. They think they have to do it all themselves, even if they have a team of people, they’re still so busy trying to make it all happen themselves, that it’s a challenge to step away and start to delegate and hand over. But that’s kind of what we’re getting to do when we start to be in the space of joy and honouring play in peace first.

It’s like, hang on, let’s kind of like the powers that be, take care of some of this for me. And then I’m just going to do the crucial actions that only I can do and that process of the happiness prism can truly just take a couple of minutes to start. But then obviously you can get more and more intricate and detailed as people get more tuned to their prison. Obviously working with me, I got clients to get even more tuned into the process, but just starting today, anyone listening can sit down and look at, well, what’s an action I can take in play, what’s in action I can take in peace with an action I can take in progress that’s going to be the most impactful and already feel a sense of satisfaction that allows for them to be set up already for better success within their day. One thing, um, I just wanted to highlight and I wanted to mention it before, but just before we conclude was that I’ve heard so many times about, it’s about the journey, or, you know, Joy is in the journey perhaps, and you said it is actually in both, so it’s in the journey and the outcome.

And I think it’s, I’ve heard it that it’s in one or the other essentially, and if you’re always focused on the outcome, then you’re not happy in the journey. And if you’re focused on the journey only, then it kind of defeats the purpose of the outcome in the first place because you know, you wanted that thing for a reason, but if you’re not actually getting it, you’re just getting the journey, then it has no value essentially other than the progress. So I just wanted to highlight that as a thing that I took away a value that’s all awesome. Well, and if I can add to that, the thing about having it as both and look, we have a signed downstairs in our kitchen, I have like an ampersand because I’m such a stand for the ant when you honour joy as the both and it’s not an oar. Like I just want people to hear that because so many times to people think, well I can have the business, but I can’t have the happy life at home or it’s like, no, you can’t have both. And actually when you have the end of the journey and the outcome, you get to be so much more and it is so much more fulfilling, but here’s the best part of it when you have a desired outcome of vision, you’re working towards whatever it is and you honour joy as the journey as the vehicle as the path and then you actually achieve the outcome that you were desiring.

It’s even so much more satisfying in fulfilling and joyful that it’s like, wow, I did it and I did it but it it’s actually even greater than if you just achieve the goal, well what are your goals then? Oh my God, I have a lot, I have several books on me, as you can imagine that are just bursting at the seams, but I’m also kind of tuning into the timing of that. I do, you have a desire to be on a ted talk and you know, I just love influencing people and whatever positive way that I can. So that’s a, you know, my professional endeavour is obviously to share this message of joy and just owning you and building in a regrets life. But then on a personal note, my family and I love to travel and I have some personal bucket list items as well of wanting to run a 50 K trail run and yeah, my husband, I would like to, you know, sale an extended period of time with our kids and just so many things, but ultimately just live this life to the fullest is really yeah, big visions and desires.

I think you’ve given an awesome Ted Talk when meet that girl feel free to send it over and I’ll share it around, thank you so much. Is there anything, sorry? We’re just going to say, oh, this has just been such an honour and a pleasure here,

The pleasure is mine. The it’s infectious. The smiling is infectious. So thank you. Is there anything that you wanted to mention, a value to the audience that I haven’t asked you about today?

You know, ultimately I just want to reinforce the piece about – and I don’t think I said it this way exactly – but you know, joy, I really believe is a divine gift, but it’s one for us to receive. You know, we’re here on our own free will and we can choose to take it or not. And so my invitation and the like takeaway for everyone is to realise you get to have a joyful life and it gets to be on your terms and you do get to just own you and to realise that you two have Fruit Loop moments at any point in your day, at any point in your journey.

And no matter what, so really it just called to remind everyone, like, this isn’t just for me, this isn’t just for you, Thomas. It’s for anyone that they can go out as soon as today and have a great life, even if it’s just a little bit like it gets to be incremental. But then ultimately over time you get to turn back and go, wow, that really did happen. That really did happen. And it was awesome.

So, great finish. Where’s the best place for people to find you? The easiest is probably my website. It’s And then I am on Instagram and Facebook and LinkedIn. Happy to connect with anyone in whatever capacity I may to bring joy their way.

Well, you’ve certainly done that today, so thank you very much.

Oh, thank you so much for all that you are bringing to this world as well.