#205 – Name That Mouse With David Wood

Thomas Green here with ethical marketing service on the episode today we have David Wood, David welcome. Hey, thank you Thomas it is my pleasure. Would you like to take a moment and tell the audience a bit about yourself and what you do? Well that’s a that’s a broad topic. Um I coach people, I found that growing up in Australia, what happened is I started gravitating towards left brain thinking and I think it’s because I had a trauma when I was when I was a kid and we didn’t know what was happening. Then it’s just like became really good at school, came top of the school, got paid to go to university and then got transferred to Park Avenue And at the age of 24 I’m consulting to Ford and Sony and Exxon.

And then I discovered um well I wasn’t happy. I was making money and things were going really well except that I just wasn’t happy and I wasn’t doing well in my marriage. So someone said, why don’t you go and do this personal growth course? And it cracked my heart open and I realized that money and numbers and systems and business are all wonderful, they’re great, but there’s so much more to life. So the first half of my life was about the left brain. The second half of my life has been about sitting with teachers and gurus and you know, going to India and Germany and and working out what it is to be human, what it is to be vulnerable, authentic honest and to be a true leader. So I’m an unusual type of coach in that I don’t just focus on life or business which is normally what you do. I work with business owners and I’m happy to double revenue and work on marketing and and money. But if that’s all you want you should really go to somebody else because I’m going to also look at the big picture and look at how you’re showing up with your kids.

How do you, what’s your legacy are you living life? So that if you’re on your deathbed five years from now you can look back and say I gave it everything. That’s what I really care about. Thank you for the introduction. Do you mind defining what you mean by left brain thinking? Yeah I’m very logical and rational and so when I was younger my little sister um was killed and I I witnessed it and apparently a trauma response is that people will learn to shut down their emotions. So I didn’t know I had a body. People didn’t say to me, David what’s happening in your body? That was never a question. It wasn’t a thing. Um People didn’t say how are you feeling? What are your emotions right now. So I just I didn’t even look there. I would just skip over all of that and go straight to what’s the solution here. What needs to happen now that’s useful to have. You know it’s useful to have that skill that like if I was in an armed holdup once and I was the only person in that room who moved when the guy in the ski mask jumped the counter.

I’m like good to have in an emergency. But until the age of 27, I didn’t have a lot of the other stuff. My wife said when I finally went to therapy and took her with me to try and understand what was going on. And she said, yeah, he’s kind of like a cardboard cutout. I was two dimensional and now I’m much more My emotions are much more available. I can sit with a client is in deep distress and go with them into the emotions. Whereas until 27 I was like what emotions? I’m fine. I’m not feeling anything. Does that answer your question? Yeah, great answer. And I’m sorry to hear that that happened. Um but I also I always find that it’s useful to ask under those types of scenarios. If someone is in that same position you were um what advice would you give them At what age? 7, 18. Well, I suppose for the purpose of the exercise is someone who is pretending they don’t have emotions and perhaps is too left brained.

If you could say too too left brained. Yeah. Oh, I love, I love this. I would love to help people who are either where I am now or where I was back then. I think it’s quite, it can be quite common, but I think for men even more to just be in our heads and we’re just heads with nobody, nothing below the chin. And I was sitting with this teacher who used to be, oh, shows right hand guy. And we’re talking about being in your body and I’m like, what are you talking about? I finally raised my hand and I said, I don’t what do you mean to being in your body and how do you do it? And the class laughed and he said, no, that’s a good question. That’s a valid question. And people are trying to help me. And one woman said, you could start by wiggling your toes and I was like, thank you, That’s something I could begin with. Here’s what I would suggest if you’re like so much in your head and I’ll wait another example because I really want to drive it home so that hopefully people can relate.

I once dated a tantra teacher and I’d say to her, how are you, how are you, how are you feeling? Because I wanted to go more in the direction of feeling. How are you, what are you feeling? She said, oh, You know, I feel like a resonance in my chest, like a deep bass note going into the earth and then it’s rippling out into my, into my arms and there’s a tingling in my fingers. Like, you know, she gave me like 1-2 minutes of explanation of what was going on in her body and then she said, how are you? And I said good, that’s all I had. I’m good, there’s nothing wrong. I didn’t know what was going on. So here’s something you can do that’s very practical. When someone says, how are you? Do not give an automated automated response. Do not just say good. Do not just say fine, actually stop and check in. I do this. I have a lot of client calls and often clients be like, how are you doing? I will stop. Close my eyes, check in with my buddy.

So if I do it right now and listeners, you can do it right now. Don’t do it if you’re driving, keep your eyes on, but if you’re driving, but feel into your body and just see what’s there. I notice there’s like a, like a current in my body almost like I had a little bit of electricity running through it. I feel a lovely energy in my hands and I feel it peace and I didn’t know that until I checked in. I actually feel really good and grounded and my neck and shoulders where I often have some pain are actually pretty chill. So that’s how I am right now, take that opportunity whenever people say to you, how are you? So give me a second to just find out. They’re gonna be so surprised, wow. Because nobody does that and that’ll, that’ll just bring a little bit more presence to an awareness to the body. I lived most of my day in my head. And then I take brief visits to the body when maybe I do some yoga or someone says, how are you?

And it’s a it’s a lifetime journey. What distinction would you make between being present? Because that’s a that’s a phrase which I would say people are often using between being in your body. Mm hmm. President. It’s a really interesting term to me present. I’m not sure that you can ever not be present. If you take the broadest term present is just being with whatever is happening. And if what’s happening is you’re thinking about your anniversary three years ago, then that’s what your present too. You’re with that. You’re with a thought now, some people might say, well, that’s not really what we want to call is present. Being present is more with what’s happening in real time now in in um, in the universe. So not some thought about three years ago. Not some thought about what am I going to make for dinner tonight. But you could call present. I’m with the desk in front of me, I am aware of what’s happening in my body right now.

I’m aware of the thoughts I’m even present to the thoughts about the anniversary three years ago. I’m watching that. I would say that’s present and a subset of that is you could be present to what’s happening in your body. The the first part of that answer is a is a good example of maybe how, how you said that you were logical because like you say, you always have to be president, even if you’re thinking of the future. But you mentioned in your introduction that you’ve been, should we say you’ve had teachers or gurus all across the world and I think it might be beneficial for others who maybe can’t do that if you could share maybe what you’ve learned from all of that teaching. Oh, oh wow. You don’t mind asking the big questions. The broad questions. Um yeah, I think from from paul Lowe, the his main thing was share your inner dialogue, share your inner dialogue, that voice that’s going on in your head.

And at landmark education, they’d say everyone in the room who is thinking I don’t have a voice, here’s what the voice is saying right now. Voice what voice I don’t have a voice in my head. So and we hide so much and that’s I understand why, you know, we’ve been hurt. And so we’ve learned. If we just share things unfiltered, we’ll get in trouble. I might get a smack when were a kid. We might offend someone, we might lose someone. So we’ve learned how to perform and be an actor, which is ironic since now I’m going into acting. but you know, I’ll be acting in a certain way that’s supposed to get me something good and you’re acting in a certain way and we keep trying to do the spiritual work to take the layers off, take their layers off and get to what’s underneath. So he’d say sharing a dialogue. So we’d say two things like we go to someone and say, I am, I’m attracted to you. I notice I’m hoping something develops with us and they’d be like, uh, okay, well here in that I noticed this is what’s going on for me and this is what’s going through my mind.

I’m impressed that you’re, that you’re willing to share that. It seems like a brave thing to do. And uh I don’t feel any attraction on my side and we just do this for like seven days straight. And then someone said to me once That 5% that you’re not sharing, that’s where all the value is. I was like, whoa. Really like, yeah, there’s stuff that I was really scared to say, he’s like, that’s what, that’s the stuff you want to get to now. It’s like, wow. So now I’m writing a book about it. If if you’re watching the video, you will be able to see in the background. I got a book called Mouse in the room because, and, and it’s from that teacher all those years ago, we’ve got so many mice running around. We all know about the elephant in the room. You see it. I see it, no one’s saying anything. We should totally address the elephant in the room. But many creatures in the room are much more subtle. If I got to this podcast three minutes late and didn’t say anything, that would be a mouse, I might be feeling embarrassed about it. I might be wondering if you’re annoyed about it.

Those are both mice that can be named so that we can we can move on. If someone said something in a meeting last week and I felt insulted and didn’t say anything that’s a mouse might be growing in size. But it’s like something I’ve got that can be named. So in a dialogue is huge. It could be a thought. A mouse could be a thought which is you’re in a dialogue. It could be a physical sensation. I noticed as as we’re as we’re watching this movie, my stomach’s really clenching up and I’m not sure if I want to keep watching this, It seems really violent. Could be this is what’s going on in my body. So any thought emotion sensation can be a mouse to be named. So that’s why I go even beyond the inner dialogue. And then the second teacher that’s had a massive impact is Byron Katie and I’ve gone and I went and sat with Katie for a month And we went deep and I was doing like 8-10 hours a day, it seemed doing what she calls the work and it’s interesting that the first teacher is all about sharing your in a dialogue.

Katie says the worst thing that can happen to you is a thought. It’s not losing your leg, it’s not losing my sister at age seven, it’s not having anxiety and depression and you know, some of the challenges or having my paraglider collapse and breaking my spine. It’s not those things that give you a bad experience, it’s whatever you are believing about those experiences. You know, the actual day when The 5% you referred to, I think I’m doing really well, partly because I’ve surrounded myself by people who also believe in being authentic and sharing what’s going on. And so it makes it a bit easier. And they used to like, you know, I can say, hey, I notice I have a withhold can we, can we talk about it? And I’m like, oh yeah, okay, so I, I’m in that kind of culture here in boulder colorado. Um, so it’s a little easier for me to do that.

But partly you’ve got to catch it because these mice are scurrying around in the background. They might be very subtle and so it might take a year for me to realize, you know, I’ve been annoyed at you for something and I’ve just kind of squashed it down and I want to, I want to talk about it because I don’t want that in between us. I want to feel closer to you. Can we talk about it? So for those who are perhaps considering or are willing to share that 5%, what what would they expect as a result of doing that? Well, I would say don’t even start with that 5%. That’s super scary. There’s like another 2030 40 50% that you can share. You might, you might be just wanting something in the bedroom or not wanting something in the bedroom. You might, you might just want to ask someone out, you know? So the book mouse in the room is designed to help you discover what’s in there. Now, once you do that for 6 to 12 months, then we can start talking about all right, what’s left?

But there’s a, when I did landmark education, they had me calling people and calling people and calling people to name my mice. They didn’t call it. They didn’t call them mice, but they’re like, who are you in complete with? I said nobody. Okay, look deeper. Who would you not want to pass on the street? Oh, okay. That’s a longer list. And I started making lists of people who do you resent who owes you an apology. These are incredible ways to uncover anything that’s incomplete in your life. So I start making lists and they’re like, okay, make a phone call? No, No, I’m not calling the bully from high school 20 years ago. Are you kidding me? Why not? Ah He’ll he’ll think I’m an idiot. Okay, There’s another mouse lead with that. I was like, oh, okay, I could do that. So I tracked down this guy’s number, called him up and said, look, I’m so nervous calling you because I think you’re gonna I think I’m an idiot. Those are two mice.

I’m nervous and I’m worried you’re going to think I’m an idiot. And he said, oh well I’m curious. What do you got tell me? And I said, I just, I felt like you always one up to me in class and in school and you know, made fun of me and we used to be friends and I’ve resented you for 20 years and I’m letting go of it and you don’t have to do anything. I just wanted to let you know. Alright. That’s naming that really big mouse that I’ve been carrying around for a long time. And he said the most thing in the world you’re going to go into it. I was, I was worried we weren’t going to get the end of that story then. Yeah, no, he blew me away. He said, well what could I say or do now to help you or us move forward. This was the guy that I had been holding was a jerk for 20 years. So that’s, that’s, that’s, that’s a big mouse? I’m not saying that everyone listening to the call has to go and call bullies from 20 years ago. but you can, what I would say is start a list just take five minutes.

So the list who owes me an apology, who’s disappointed me? Who, who, who do I owe an apology to And you can go back as far as you want and you don’t have to call everyone on that list, but you might pick two or three and reach out. I was on a podcast interview like this and the guy’s like I’ve hated a guy who beat me up in school and he ended up reaching out on facebook, found this guy and told him about this and got, I actually got a really sweet apology from the guy and he’s like, he’s like my world just shifted. I’ve been holding on to that for so long. So there’s such upside when we artfully name and mice. Now I say artfully because if you do it the wrong way, say, hey, we need to talk, I’m pissed at you. That doesn’t usually go over very well. There are ways to do it and we do outline in the book a simple process. So you can do it like a paint by numbers, give you a much better chance of it going well, thank you for sharing that.

Have you got any other examples that are particularly, would you say that you’re, you’re proud of in relation to people that you reached out to. Well what’s coming up? Um Well yeah, yeah, I’ll tell you a couple of examples and I would love to come back and double click on on that second guru about the idea that a thought is the worst thing that can happen to you um if we have time and if we don’t, that’s totally fine, this is this is your show. Um I called, there was a girl who dumped me twice when I was a teenager twice and gave me the cold shoulder each time and I was pretty upset about that. So I called her and I said, look, you don’t have to do anything, I’m just, I’m letting it go. And she said I was such an idiot, I’m so sorry, I was so irresponsible and I’m just really, really sorry, and I was like, oh my God, um there was another ex girlfriend who had broke, had broken up, we’ve broken up like 56 times and it was a brutal experience for me and I was I was angry for 10 years and I’m a coach, you know, I did all my work and I tried to let go of it and I realized she doesn’t owe me an apology, she did the best she could.

You know, that’s my spiritual self. And finally I got coaching on it and I realized that if we were to be friends, I would need an apology, that was the path, we don’t have to be friends, but if we’re gonna clear this. And so I reached out and said, would you like to know Why I’ve held you at a distance the last 10 years because I know she wanted to be friends and she said, hell yes. And so I created two videos, like 24 minute videos because I didn’t like the first seven I created. So I deleted them. And then I I’ve made it until I got it right and it felt clean and it felt, you know, non blame me. And I said, this is what I’m upset about. You did this, this, this and this and I wish you’d done it differently. And I get you probably weren’t trying to be mean. But it it was devastating to me. And if we’re gonna be friends, I’d like to know that you’re that you’re sorry and that if you had it over you would do it differently, knowing what you know now for me to trust you.

And I don’t think I was attached to any kind of an outcome. I just said now I’ve said my piece and she sent me the most beautiful apology. She said I was addicted to you. And I wish I had known enough to just walk away and leave you in peace. And I’m so sorry and I cried and cried and cried. I told myself I didn’t need that I didn’t need any of that. And we’ve since become friends, I actually do care about her and and she ended up responding to a job that I had and worked for me for a while. It was, it was amazing. So, so much as possible. I’m I’m I love my ex wife and a couple of years ago I went and stayed with her and her husband and her, her little boy who calls me Uncle David. These things are possible when you start seeing what’s going on inside of you and then can start sharing it with with the other person is vulnerable.

It takes a lot of courage. But the keys to the kingdom of yours, if you can go that way, there’s also a business application. I don’t want people to think, oh, this is just a feel good exercise. No, when you start living this way, people will trust you, they will trust you because you’re showing what’s going on. Sometimes it’ll be awkward. Sometimes it’ll be, you know that you’ll have to deal with their feelings and their mice. But if you can stick with it, you can go so much deeper and then more people will want to work with you. You’ll get opportunities. I’m an entrepreneur and I’m a speaker and a thought leader, I get opportunities to go and speak on stage or to be nominated and elected to the transformational leadership council with people that I, I’m in awe of like Marianne Williamson and Don Miguel Ruiz and Jack Canfield and I say those things could not happen if I was living the old way where I was hiding everything.

You’ll be a better leader, people will follow you because like, okay, I trust this woman, I trust this man. Yeah, well I think on top of that, I suppose there’s a benefit, there’s a selfish benefit to being able to say, you know, I say how I feel, I’m not trying to keep anything from anyone. A clear conscience is a, I know it might sound a bit cliche, but I think a clear conscious is a, is a very um beneficial thing from a selfish point of view for you too. Aspire to clear conscience is one of the, one of the rewards is one of the prizes. I um, I’ll tell you, I won’t go into the details of it because it’s very, it was very private for me, but it’s such a, it’s such a big moment in my life. I felt guilty about something I did when I, when I was a kid, I just, I felt like I, I may have hurt somebody And um, I just felt bad about it for like for 2030 years and I didn’t know how to name the mouse and I got coaching and coaching and coaching and finally I went and track the person down and said, look, I want to confess, I have a confession Mouse.

I didn’t say confession mouse, but it was a confession Mouse, I said it was me. I’m the one who did that thing way back then and I’m, I just want to check for impact and how, how was it for you? And I’m really sorry. That’s not who I am today. And I just, I just want to make amends if I can. And it turned out they were like, oh, it’s, it’s fine. You know, I’m totally fine, you know, zero impact. And I was like, oh my God, I was so nervous. They could have been really mad at me. I could have been prosecuted. It could have been like really awkward. Another while we’re on the topic of mouse naming once. Um, I noticed I kept driving past the college, the college where I went when I was 18, and I lived there and um, I had stolen the sign twice and I kept looking at that sign and I drive by it on my way to work and I felt bad.

I felt like it was just wrong. It seemed like fun at the time, but now it just seems like vandalism and I’m like, what am I going to do about it? And I thought if I call up and admit to it, they could call the police and I get prosecuted and that could be in the paper and that’s going to impact my reputation. I was going through all this stuff and finally I was like, this is what I’m committed to. So I called up, I spoke to the principal who had never met and told him I’m sorry, I stole the college signed twice and I’d like to make it right, can I write you a check? And he’s like, who is this? And I said, I’m David Wood and he goes, And how long ago was this? I said like 15, 20 years ago, and why are you calling? And I said, well, I’m I’m a life coach now and I try and live a transparent life and try and clean up messes when I make them and this is a mess and it was wrong. And I’d like to make it right. It’s just how I live. And he’s like, well, your timing is good because we just lost another of the damn things and they’re and they’re expensive. So he told me how much it was.

I wrote him a check and a week later and I, here’s what I didn’t tell you. I had been banned from that college, not for stealing the sign, but from from leading kids in other things and basically making mischief. I’ve been banned. I wasn’t welcome a week later. I got an invitation from the principle to attend the opening of the new wing of the college and I’m like, wow, okay, I’m showing up and I showed up and the Prime Minister of Australia happened to be there because it was in his district and he was there to open the wing and officiate and there’s this line of like 100 people waiting to meet him. And the principal saw me standing there and just just jumped the line and said, Prime Minister, I want to introduce you to one of our alumni. This is David Wood, personal introduction to the Prime Minister. I wasn’t going to line up to meet him. Um all of that out of just naming a mouse with someone confession mouse and and cleaning it up.

So they don’t always go that well alright, you, you may lose something. This is why you haven’t done it yet. It may feel awkward. The other person may have feelings. They may get upset. I just named a mouse with a client yesterday. I said, look, I know you’re in a very urgent situation and I know you’re having trouble accessing your funds right now. And it’s also been a month since I’ve been paid. So let’s talk about what we can do. Maybe we can reduce the coaching and I’ll keep going and keep supporting you, but not at the current level until you can pay. I thought it was a nice offer. Well, she had feelings come up. She felt abandoned. Now it doesn’t have to be logical, but she felt abandoned and she had feelings like I’m really trying. I’m trying to make all this happen and here you are leaving me. And so it’s awkward and I stuck with it. And I got to really um follow the steps in the book. I I said let me check I’m getting this right, you feel this this this and this and and she said no that’s not it.

Okay tell me. And then we got to okay. Yes this is it. I understand. Can you hear my side now? Is there any space? She said okay. And I said well I feel like this is a nice offer that I’m making. You know I haven’t been paid and I it’s a value I have on being paid before I coach and I’m actually offering to keep supporting you. And she and we worked it out and then I got this beautiful message later. Thank you for sticking with me while I had that reaction. So it’s not for the faint of heart. But if you walk down this path I really think even though sometimes you lose something, you could lose a job. If you speak your truth you might lose that promotion. You might talking worst case yeah you might get prosecuted. If you go and confess to a crime you might have your partner leave you. I coached someone on confessing to an affair. I have confessed when I was 18 and totally stupid, got drunk and slept with someone else.

One of the worst things I think I’ve done in my life and confessing was horrendous. But we worked through it. I lost the relationship for about four weeks until I could earn her trust back and that’s that’s the woman I ended up marrying. Um So yeah, you’ll lose stuff but wouldn’t you rather walk this path? This path of which I think is a noble path of telling your truth and letting the chips fall, telling the truth artfully and gently and kindly and then if you lose some things okay you’ll find more things. Well some of the examples you’ve given, I think that You know, people can do a lot of changing in that timeframe. So one of the examples you gave was from like 15 years or 20 years ago and you can be hanging onto that stuff for a long time and that person is completely changed. You’re really either apologizing or being mad at someone who that’s not them anymore. It’s the it’s the them from 20 years ago or whatever.

So I think it’s from you, you said you were left brained initially. But if anything, this might be the logical way to go about it. What do you think about that? What arises as I hear that is that we have blind spots. I live each day as if I don’t I live, I think that I’m super intelligent. I think I’m the smartest person in the room usually and that that I’m I have an amazing brain but we have blind spots. We have stable data where we’ve just taken something in and now that’s how the world is, that’s how we live. I think they call it maya the illusion if that’s how the world is, it’s like we’re in our own private matrix. He is a joke. This person abandoned me. Um, I had a therapy session yesterday coaching slash therapy and I put some new things together that I had not seen in 20 years. I have a fear of um noise really because noise triggers me, triggers my nervous system.

There’s a bang in the house or a thud. I go on alert and I’m moving to Los Angeles soon and I’m worried about how I’m gonna be because I can get an anxiety response and this coach was able to help me put some things together and once we dealt with the fear of noise and I got to another place of joy and freedom and peace. I started feeling like I want to get out into the world more. I want to explore the world. I want to date. I want to go to shows and because normally I’m quite Hermitage. I want to go out and have coffee with people and lunches and brunches and go to industry functions in Los Angeles started feeling this, emerging into the world. I had no idea that my phobia about sound is is dampening some of the other things. So I think that was an indirect answer to your question. I think we have blind spots and so it’s not until we hear a podcast like this perhaps or go and sit with a teacher or read a book.

Um, or do a course, do an immersion until we can sometimes have those moments of, oh, maybe he didn’t leave me like my client yesterday, I’m being left and then by the end of the call, she had the opposite experience. Now he is with me, he is not being paid and he is with me. He’s not going anywhere. But the story that comes up these stories over and over and over again, One of the categories of mice in the book, we’ve identified seven major mice. One of them is called stary storytelling mouse. And that’s where you are telling yourself a story now you may not even know it, it’s just reality to you. But then, you know, hopefully as you read the book or or listen to the podcast, you were like, maybe maybe that is a story. Maybe. Maybe I, I could check that out with the person and see if it’s real. I assume that someone so is not interested in a friendship because they haven’t responded to the last two texts, that’s my story.

Maybe I’ll check it out. I might write, hey, I’m getting the idea that maybe you’re not up for a friendship now. Ah, maybe the timing is not right. And uh, you know, because I have, so you haven’t responded just want to check if that feels true. If it is okay. God bless. Maybe there’ll be another time. Um, or if you’ve just gotten really busy and you would like to make something happen, Let me know. That’s me checking out a storytelling mouse. We do it all the time, but we don’t even know, we don’t even know it’s there. Thank you for that. Um, I, I feel like I could talk to you about this for for a very long time and I’m conscious of the fact that you’ve got a book out. Um would you like to talk about the book just for a moment or maybe a favorite chapter? Yeah, yeah, Thank you. And the book is coming out in the next month or two, but already you can get the mini book, which will give outline the mice. It’s got beautiful pictures in it and it will give you what you need to get started and mouse naming. You can contribute to the book production if you want and be part of the amazon bestseller campaign, which we’re going to run as an excuse to hold a party basically.

Um, I think I’ve already talked about Mouse in the room well what I want to go deeper into storytelling mouse. So we’re telling us tell stories all the time and that’s fine and were often just believing them automatically. And often that’ll work except for when it comes to people because we’re often got stories that are just not true at all. And um, and this will give me a chance to come back to that, that that work of Byron Katie and checking out your thoughts because the thoughts are the only thing that can actually cause us pain when my paraglider collapsed and I fractured my spine. I was in a lot of pain. I was screaming actually, I was screaming and it doesn’t happen very often. I was screaming in agony and then I think the story that was going through my head was I might be paralyzed, then I wiggled my toes and I’m like, okay.

And then I said out loud, I know what this is because I had a similar injury from parker a few years ago a few years before and I’m like, okay, I know what this is, this is contusions. I’ve got massive bruising of the lower back, I may have a slight compression fracture. Um I know exactly because I fell 15 ft under my butt boom and I had a good time. I had a good time from that moment. People rushed over to me, they’re speaking in spanish, they’re all helping me. I’m helpless. I kept my camera rolling. I actually have a video of that. I don’t know if I’ve ever published it, but I’ve got a video of the crash and then I kept it rolling while it all happened and I’m like, alright. I’m making a film and then they put me under a shed on a stretcher for an hour and just left me alone while I’m waiting for the ambulance because it’s up in the mountain. And uh I made some videos for friends and I had a good time. I was in pain but it wasn’t agony.

And then the ambulance ride. The worst thing about it all was I couldn’t pee and I was busting and I was worried again, another story, my bladder might burst. Another storytelling mouse bottom might burst. Is it true? I could have asked him, you know, is this a problem? I had a lovely day. My my girl I was dating came and picked me up from the hospital. I managed to hobble from the wheelchair to the car, took some painkillers. People assume you have an accident. You fractured your spine is a horrible experience. It was wonderful. So, storytelling mouse and mirror mouse. Mirror Mouse is where you it’s really just for you. It’s something you’ve discovered about yourself. They here’s the clue if you are suffering in any way, there’s anything about your day. I woke up with, I’m tired. I’m going to be tired for the rest of the day. How am I gonna function? That was let’s run it through the head anytime you notice any kind of a negative experience.

Right down the thought. That’s your storytelling mouse. Right down the thought. Um I’m in trouble. That’s not usually usually my baseline problem. I’m in trouble. I’m gonna get in trouble. This bad thing is going to happen, write it down and then check it out. Check out if it’s actually true. If you have a coach, bring it to your coach because it’s often hard to see all this stuff yourself. But someone outside you, I hear a client complaining about something or they’re down about something or upset or anxious. I’m listening for what’s the belief here and then I can help them go into that because now I see the way the way they got into the hole so I can see the way out. It’s often easier with somebody else. So mouse in the room. You can go to mouse in the room dot com and and be part of the campaign. Um, that’s what I have to say about this book. I think this book could change the world. It really could, bringing people closer and having the level of authenticity right, raise.

Well, like I say, I feel like I could talk to you for a long time about this topic. So you have a buyer here. So if there’s some sort of mailing list or something, feel free to put me on there. But I will, I will visit the website. Have you got any closing thoughts for us, David? I appreciate this chance to talk about discovering what’s actually happening in ourselves. I I started the journey 20 something years ago. That’s a lifetime journey to work out, wait a minute, what is happening. My coach just sent me an emotion wheel. I’m seeing emotions, I don’t think I’ve heard of on that wheel so I can start to continue my education in emotional intelligence and anyone listening who’s thinking, yeah, I’d like to know more about what’s happening in my body. I’d like to be better at moving my body and integrating and not just being intellectual. I hope, I hope some of this has helped and I really hope you get the mini book of mouse in the room and start and share it.

You know, download it. Um, share it with your friends posted on social media. Let’s make a movement. Let’s start a mouse naming movement. And I, I see a time when people, when kids will go to their parents and say, mommy, can I name a mouse with you? And people, you know, in corporations say, hey, I want to name a couple of mice. Um, and it’s just like, oh, I know what you’re talking about. There’s something going on for you. You just want to name it. Okay, go for it. That’s what I see. Let’s make that happen. All right, well thank you for, I think that what you’ve done is you’ve, you’ve learned from, from what you’ve said today. You’ve learned so much and you’ve condensed it down into something, which I think would be beneficial for an awful lot of people. So thank you for that contribution. And also thank you for being a great guest today, oh, you’re welcome. And if I may say thomas to if anyone listening to this is thinking actually I think I could use a coach and you wanna see if we’d be a fit, you can go to my focus gift dot com and I’ve got a couple of downloads I prepared for you that that are free.

Um There’s a really cool video and there’s a link where you can request, I call it a double your revenue audit because most people who come to me, you want to double their revenue. That’s the first thing. That’s how I get them in the door. So w revenue audit, you can click on that and we’ll get on the phone and see if if if coaching would be right for you and if we’re a fit and that link is my focus gift dot com. Well, for everyone listening, please review the links in the description David Wood. Thank you very much.