#260 – Plan, Execute, Debrief With Fighter Jet Pilot Dominic Teich

Thomas Green here with Ethical Marketing Service. On the episode today, we have Dominic Teich. Dominic, welcome. Thank you, Thomas. It is my pleasure. Would you like to take a moment and tell the audience a bit about yourself and what you do? Yeah I’m a American fighter pilot and I’ve started a few businesses. I’ve been flying most of my life, I’ve played sports into junior college, and our most recent business that we started is called single seat mindset. And we help goal oriented individuals avoid failure and kind of chart a direct path to success with that with that business, we can talk more about that if you like. I’d love to and I even, I’m positively predisposed to that type of message anyway so when I saw the business name and the the mindset kind of things I was like that just looks like a great thing to talk about.

But before we do, I would like to ask you how does someone become a fighter pilot, what did that look like for you? Yeah, it’s kind of a long road. There’s a there’s a few different paths you can take. There’s a misnomer that you have to have a dad or an uncle or somebody that you know super close that is a fighter pilot in order to be a fighter pilot, that couldn’t be further from the truth. I erroneously thought that as a young kid. You can go to the Air Force academy or one of the service academies and commission as an officer and go through pilot training that way. You can also go through ROTC. I think the U. K. Has similar programs to become an officer and go through flight training as well. The path that I took those I went through college just as a regular joe and I was flying in college and teaching civilian flight lessons, and then I applied to get selected to go to the Air Force through officer training school.

So that’s how I got my commission and then that’s how I subsequently was picked up to go through the flying program. And then once you’re in the flying program you just, you go through their different tracks and you compete along the way and as luck would have it and a little bit of hard work and determination, I made the fighter track and eventually found myself in a single seat fighter jet. What about the first flight you ever went on? Which one? The civilian or military one? Yeah I suppose going on holiday or something is probably not very relevant but when you first went out on your own maybe, what was going through your mind? What was the story there? Yeah so the first time I went out in a jet on my own, it was in pilot training and actually flied the T-38, it’s a two seat aircraft but there wasn’t an instructor in the backseat so we get to go out by ourselves and kind of one of the scary things at that point was just to make sure that you close the canopy for the back seat, so you don’t start driving around on the ground with the the canopy, the lid open in the back because that would come off pretty fast if you try to take off with that open.

I’d say that the big thing there was by that point it wasn’t necessarily a scary thing, everybody’s a little bit nervous because you don’t want to suck and you want to do well and, not go out of the airspace or break any rules or any of that kind of stuff because you’re brand new to the game. So it was a lot of fun I think just kind of being on your own, you have a, it gives you a little bit more of a single seat mindset so you you learn things on your own because you’re the one that has to make the decisions. Fast forward to the F-16 and taking off the first time by myself. I had an instructor and the way we fly together is it’s not necessarily just us by ourselves, we typically take off and fly with at least another aircraft if not several other aircraft, so we’re working together as a team. Almost always unless we’re taking an aircraft to go get it fixed or flying by ourselves to just ferry a jet to another airfield.

But I remember that the instructor behind me and so that he’s, he’s watching me the whole time and, and uh, you know, just, just taking off and it’s just being so quiet. I think the thing that bugged me the most was I could hear everything, I could hear all the little night, annoyed, uh, things that were going on all along. But um, having somebody else in the jet with me, I had never taken the time to hear that. So it was a little bit disconcerting for about the first five minutes. But after that, um, I kind of settled in. So would you say it’s a rush to get some adrenaline going on? Oh yeah, that’s a, that’s an understatement. And I would even say now, you know, I’m 2021 years into flying airplanes and it still is just such a great feeling taken off and, and uh, flying the jets amazing. And anything story wise that is significant when you think about when you, when you are flying, anything that, you know, stays in your mind, uh, let’s see here, significant, like as I’m flying or um, just stories from, from the past.

Well, if there’s anything, um, you know important from the past and feel free to bring it up. But I did mean that the story that, you know, I haven’t, I haven’t really shared an open forum at this point is as my, it was very early on, I was at my first combat base and we were um, doing some um, exercises and stuff like that, so we were practicing essentially and some, we, we lived up in Northern Japan and they got a lot of snow up there and some snow had come through and so we came back to our base and we were trying to, you know, get the jets on the ground, um, and we ended up diverting to another base in Japan, um, and avoided the snow. And I just remember uh, taxiing or driving the airplanes in on the ground and I couldn’t see any of the lines because it had snowed a couple of, you know, an inch or two already as we had landed there. Um, and I guess the lesson for me that day was just, you know, a lot of that training, the divert training and that kind of stuff, you get trained on that, but um, it’s kind of when you least expect it.

So just being being ready and um, you know, every, every month I would go through just kind of the, the checklist and stuff like that just to see what I hadn’t looked at in a while to keep myself sharp on that stuff. Thank you for that, you mentioned the mindset, the single seat mindset, would you mind sharing with people what, what you’ve learned, how you apply that principle to your life? Yeah, so I had kind of alluded to it earlier. Um you know, single seat fighter pilots and even fighter pilots that have two seats, the pilot is in the front. Um and and if they have a back seat or like in the new um tom cruise movie Maverick, um the guy in the back is not the pilot, the guy in the front is, so there still is a single seat mindset, if you’re in a pointy nosed fighter jet, um you know, things that I learned and kind of why we started this business was we found that, you know, goal oriented individuals, they get frustrated when there’s um you know, there’s rigid structures and there’s slow processes that are kind of preventing them from getting to their their goal and their finish line and there’s no deliverable outcome and fighter pilots, you know, they make decisions uh like myself and like the 40 at the time of this recording the 40 plus fighter pilots that are part of our group at single seat mindset.

Um we make those split decisions every day at 800 plus miles an hour and those are really leverage herbal and learn herbal um things, strategies, techniques that you can learn, um even if you’re not a fighter pilot and apply those to peak performing professions. Um so that’s just kind of why I started uh single seat mindset, it was primarily um initially when we set it up, it was during covid it was to help a lot of the younger fighter pilots that were really struggling and then, you know, it turned into a blog and a website and an automated program um so people could sign up on their own and then, you know, now we have a series of books called single seat wisdom where fighter pilots share, you know, a chapter um and they tell the world about their their wisdom as a fighter pilot and then they apply it to a practical life lesson. Um That doesn’t necessarily have to be within aviation. It can be a whole bunch of different things. 800 mph is crazy, what’s it like to be traveling at that speed?

Well, so at at 300 ft off the ground. So think, you know, a couple of pine trees up just above the treetops, you know, going 6 700 miles an hour. It’s it’s fast and you gotta be paying attention but um just like if you’ve flown on an airliner um since um probably a lot of the world um has at this point um the higher up you get the slower or I guess the less movement that you perceive at that altitude. So um I would say just the closer you get to the ground, the more exhilarating it gets because you can see that that line of sight, you can see things passing really fast, Whereas you know the higher up you get it is it’s not underwhelming but it’s less noticeable, teaches you some good focus then because for the day dream is it’s probably not not very good to be a daydream. It would be a fighter jet pilot. It is definitely not, there’s not a whole lot of time for sitting back and just letting the world go by.

Um We spend a lot of time flying the aircraft ourselves. Um You know a lot of these jets have um have autopilots on them but that is uh you don’t use it very often just because you’re doing a lot of flying um to keep everything on track. So the nickname is slice. What’s the story there? Why you named slice? Yeah. So for those that haven’t heard I had a close pass as a young fighter pilot. And what that means is we were doing um I hadn’t been named by my peers at this point so I was just I was the F. N. G. The the the effing new guy in the squadron and um I went out on a training mission with my instructor pilot because he was teaching me some new skills and we were doing essentially dog fighting since a lot of people know that that term and we passed really close to each other. Um And started our fight and the goal was to kill the other aircraft simulated of course um the quickest and whoever did that won the fight.

And um, during one of the fights, during one of the last fights, I was feeling pretty good. Um, and I, we, we both were pointing at each other too long, but I broke a training rule and we ended up passing very close and during the naming ceremony later on, I don’t know if it was within a week or two, they called me slice because they said I tried to slice my instructor in half and at the time I was in a squadron that was the samurai squadron in japan and uh, it kind of fits the whole motif we had going on there with, with swords and, and samurai. So is that something that you continued or is that like a one off moment? Oh yeah, it was, it was a one off moment. I had definitely learned my lesson. Uh, you know, during the fighter pilots, um, we, we plan execute debrief, that’s kind of the, the mantra and during the debrief, um, I would say that one of the biggest things that I’ve learned from the military is how to, how to debrief um, effectively and how to pull those lessons out of what you, you did while you were flying and those lessons, um, and the intricacies behind how we debrief as american fighter pilots and, and a lot of the other worlds fighter pilots do the same.

Um, really is leverage herbal into business because I think what a lot of people avoid is is debriefing, especially when you fail because you don’t really want to address those issues. Um but yeah, so we pulled, we pulled the information from the debrief and both of us got some lessons learned. Um I got a big lesson learned that I get to remember for the rest of my life because my sign has followed me. They won’t let you forget it. Yeah, I went in prep for the episode. I I saw something, I think it was a video and it was in relation to people who gave you second chances. What were you alluding to there? Yeah, I mean, so I am not the, I don’t I don’t think that I was born to be a fighter pilot. I think it was something that you know, life had given me opportunities and steps along the way to make certain decisions to get to that point. Um I do think that there are probably individuals that are more um that are better set up to be fighter pilots just out the gate.

Um, but I think that’s even pretty rare. I think most of us um you know, the are whatever they say, our brains are plastic, right? So it’s a learned thing. Right? So yes, there are certain things that that help you be a fighter pilot but um in regards to second chances, um you know, throughout my whole life, I’ve had any time you see a professional athlete or or somebody that’s made it, or somebody has done something really difficult? Usually there’s a team or a coach or or stuff going on behind the scenes um that helped the person get to that point. Now, I’m not undermining the person’s actions and the person’s mindset that did get them to that point. However, um when I say second chances, there’s um just a lifetime of second chances given to me by those in my life, whether it was my parents growing up or um you know, my bosses when I was a young um civilian instructor pilot or uh the thousands and thousands of mistakes that I’ve made um as a military fighter pilot, just the willingness of many people to to know that I was working hard but not working smart at times and um you know, I had a little bit of a fiery temper as a young guy, so um a lot of guys knew that I worked hard um and sometimes I would step on my own toes and and kind of get in my own way.

So if I could go back, there would be some things that, you know, I would maybe do a little bit differently, but I’m here now and I definitely learned from them and uh yeah, I’m just grateful for all the people in my life that have given me a literal life of second chances to try again, Thank you for that? It makes me wonder about perhaps the highlights of your um jet pilot career. Would you say that there are any that spring to mind there? Yeah. So one guy that has given me a second chance that I look back and I have to chuckle at his, his call sign is slap. And um, this is also something I haven’t really talked about before. But when I was a young lieutenant, he was a captain. So he was a little, he outranked me and he had more experience at this point than I did. And um, he had come into my, um, I was the squad, the flight schedule er, so I was trying to schedule my flights and it was kind of a rule that you don’t touch a flight schedule, ear’s scheduling board because back then we had pucks on a white board.

Well he had come in and moved a puck or two around on my board and you know, I was busy and pretty stressed out and I was a young guy and I was trying to, trying to do well and, and I flipped my lid unfortunately And I yelled at him for, for doing that. And after I did that, I went back to him and, and you know, I was like, dude, I’m out of line, I shouldn’t have done that type of thing. Well, fast forward. Uh, 12, 14 years I run into him again. Um, he ends up writing a chapter in the first volume of single seat wisdom and it’s, you know, his, his lesson is you’re not entitled to anything that you didn’t earn. Um and he is just a really hard working american fighter pilot just like myself. Um and he also invested in one of our apartment communities and one of the other businesses that I own as well. So I think the, the big lesson learned is um you know, the people in your life, if you’re yes, you’re gonna make mistakes.

I have, I’ve lost friends over stupid things that I’ve done. Um but if you have, I guess just a little bit of humility or a little bit of insight to say, well I messed up, I’m sorry, can you forgive me? And then just move on um how powerful that’s been and in some of the relationships that I have now and how I look back and I’m like, what really started that relationship was a really bad experience up front that we kind of got over and moved forward from. Yeah, I’ve heard that about, about conflict and that is that if you do overcome it, patch it up and move forward, it can be actually a really good thing for that relationship in terms of the friendships that you, that you lost, is that in relation to you referenced a temporary younger age, is that something that happened then? No, so I mean there’s, it’s, I don’t know if you, you lose a relationship over just, um, maybe a temper tantrum, if you did what you probably have to ask yourself if that was a very solid relationship in the first place because people do get upset.

Um, no, I think as you’re growing and as you’re, you’re moving through life and as your, your maybe, um, upsetting the norm and you’re, you’re doing things out of your own comfort zone that’s that are uncomfortable and that, that most people don’t do. Um, you’re going to find that, um, that some people that you thought were your friends maybe aren’t the best fit and, you know, I think there’s this thing going around that, you know, if if what if you die and you had five close friends, um, you lived a good life and I would say if you had five really, really close friends, I mean guys that are willing to die for you and want the best for you, um, that you’re a pretty lucky person. Um, and I’m not saying that you can’t do that, but I’m saying that finding those people that are in your life, um, uh, you probably should be pretty blessed if you have those. I know my wife is one of them, so I can add her to my hands.

So I have at least one. And I say that kind of tongue in cheek and jokingly, but um, I have a lot of good friendships, but I’ve also lost a lot of periphery friends that I thought were friends as I, as I move forward and because you’re going to realize sometimes that those, those friends don’t want you to move too far out in front of them because then they’re kind of a little bit challenged by, um, maybe what you’re doing with your life, but maybe one of the tough questions you have to ask yourself. So it sounds like you’d make though those decisions again without any hesitancy, is that fair? I think so. The way that I’m wired, I was so determined to get, well, yeah, so there’s, I guess two, I would have maybe done it a little bit of a different way, but I was determined to get to where I wanted to go. Um, but there’s always maybe a little bit better way. You can, you can do that in my case. Um, as, as a young guy, I alluded to it, I was, I was just kind of a, like the scorched earth theory, I was the dragon and I was gonna make it to the finish line and sometimes I look back and be like, well I burned some bridges and burned the ground, uh, as I was getting there, so maybe I could have done it a little bit differently.

Um, but then just just kind of like I alluded to before the things that, you know, after you’re done doing something if you take the time to really debrief how you did it and look at all the little facets there, that’s that’s where I think a lot of the learning comes from and to and to actually have some introspection for yourself and go, man, I could have maybe I could have done that a little bit differently and maybe try to go back and and, and mend or patch some of the relationships and and then realize that maybe sometimes that won’t work. Thank you for sharing that in terms of what you’re doing now, are you still flying or are you into your business stuff? 100% now. Yeah, I’m still flying, I’m actually, what’s nice is that I’m a reservist, so um I don’t have to move, which allows me to own uh real estate, we own it in the city that we live in here in phoenix Arizona, um and then also run single seat mindset, so that’s kind of opened up. Um you know, the door a little bit to maybe do that when I, you know, if I was on active duty and moving around all over the world and deploying that make it a little bit more difficult.

So yeah, I’m still teaching in the F 16 schoolhouse. It’s, it’s the place where um either pilots that have already flown, fighter jets come to get retrained. Um but more importantly, it’s where new students come to fly fighter jets for the first time and um it’s a very challenging program and we get to teach, teach the young whipper snappers as they come in the door for the first time. So it’s, that’s pretty cool because a lot of this stuff that we’ve built, um works very well with, with the new guys. So would you say you’re more of a mentor now? Yeah, I would say that, um, I would say I’m more more of a, a guide where I can, I can at least guide the students what not to do. Um, That’s kind of how that’s how I write is more of, hey, look at these are the mistakes that I made, here’s how you avoid the mistake. And then, oh, by the way, if you get into this trouble, here’s how to dig yourself out of that trouble. And does the series of books that you created, does that come sort of as a result of your new role in teaching, or is it the other way around?

Yeah. So that was a, um, an idea after I had started, um, you know, during covid a lot of the students were on, we’re on pretty difficult schedule. So I started sending them a message once a week that they could read in about two minutes because that’s, that’s something that, you know, I always had a hard time with, like, as I was Trying to get somewhere in life, I didn’t have time to sit down and read 10 books. So I’m very cognizant that, you know, goal oriented individuals, they have a finite amount of time and attention span because they’re so hyper focused on where they’re going. So I would I would write them a short little message and after about the fifth or sixth class of F16 students that came through, you know, we were I refined the message and then as it grew, um and then we start, we had an actual business and an actual website, an actual blog, and and and what have you, the older fighter pilots that were getting ready to retire. Um my question was, what are you going to do once you’re gone?

How do you capture your story? And that’s where single seat wisdom comes in, it’s from fighter pilots that have been there, done that And they share their story, I would say most of them the average um word count per chapters, maybe 1500 words. So you can easily read the chapter in 10 to 15 minutes and it’s every chapter is written by an individual fighter pilot and every chapter at the end summarizes their wisdom and in an actual step. Um if if you want to get something out of their chapter, and like I said, it’s not always, it doesn’t always apply to aviation. In fact, I’d say most of the time. Um it’s actually the opposite, It applies to other facets of life. Would you be willing to share one that perhaps is either a favorite or one that you’ve received good feedback on? Yes, so the one that makes me laugh is the story I told you earlier about slap, you know, you’re not entitled to anything you don’t earn. Um, so that is so many of the chapters, I don’t, I don’t have a favorite.

Um, I wrote a chapter in the first volume, that is definitely not my favorite we have, well, it’s just my, it’s my writing, I don’t want to hear myself, I don’t want to sit down and read my own story because it’s my story. So, and every time you do, you’re like, oh, I could have said that differently or, or you know, made it better this way. So, um, you know, but there there are a couple of um, I mean they’re all really good, I think if we’re talking business and Debrief, um specifically volume one has a chapter written by he in the Air Force, we have a weapons school, which is, it’s the top gun school. And the guy that wrote the chapter on Debrief, he’s not only a top gun pilot, but he’s a top gun pilot instructor. So he went back to the school to teach the top gun instructors and he wrote a chapter on Debrief and I kind of alluded to that earlier, but plan execute Debrief. Um, that chapter was written by um an astronaut in volume two.

So we have an astronaut that wrote about plan execute Debrief. And then in volume one we have a top gun instructor pilot that wrote a chapter on debrief and it’s a um, it’s something that’s very leverage herbal into business and other aspects of your life and he has a framework for that and he actually has pictures in there and graphs to have for, for you. Um, even outside of the fighter pilot community, you could look at that and go, okay, you know, if this happened then this okay, if that didn’t happen, then I need to go down this way and you can really really get into the weeds and it is very clunky and robotic when you are first learning how to debrief effectively. Um, but then once you practice it, like we talked about before, um, perfect practice makes perfect. And as you practice it over and over and over again, you’ll find that it’s more um, it’s, it’s easier to, to run through that framework and get to um, you know, the result or, or the idea or the mistake that happened during your execution.

So I’d say from like a business standpoint that those, those chapters are the ones that that stick out to me right away in terms of the plan execute debrief, would you say people are predominantly just executing or would you say which part of that is typically missing? I would say debriefing is probably the one that is not um done as effectively as it could be. Um, just because it’s not, it’s not, so you would need somebody to coach you through that and guide you through that as you’re learning um as a business owner, as a solo preneurs as an athlete, right? So your coach is gonna be the one that kind of helps you learn those patterns of behavior so that you can, you know, because it is a, it’s a mindset thing, you have to have the mindset to look at how bad you sucked and to, to go.

Yes, I did do well in these, these areas, but I also suck and I need to do well in these areas and and do better next time and then, oh by the way, how do we do that? Um So I would say the debriefing portion um is probably the thing that is from, from my vantage point, even as a civilian flight instructor, uh my debriefing skills just were not anything like they are um as as I am as a fighter pilot and it wasn’t because I was a bad person, it wasn’t because the other instructors were bad people, it’s just that wasn’t something part of their uh that was part of their culture and part of the digging deep and finding out all the little intricacies that you could do better and finding, you know, hey, the one thing that we could have done better is this, so if anything, next time we know the one big thing and then maybe having two or three other little things that you can you can work on. But that’s what I found too is if you can just give the students one big thing hey on your next flight, focus on this one big thing and then you know that’s A.

And then for B. And C. Try to work on these things and that way you don’t have 20 top priorities right for your next mission, you have one like what is the priority today? Um So really digging deep in on that the planning and executing part um you know, I find that uh debriefing is probably the least looked at and then in regards to planning and executing, I think that’s more of just a an individual um preference I like to execute because I’m an action taker. So I plan enough to get going and then I start going and I a lot of times outside of flying because we have very, very structured ways to go through our planning um as fighter pilots, but in the business world, um I plan enough and then I get going and a lot of times I find that I learn along the way some kind of doing on the job training and I’m using the team that I assembled to kind of help me get to the finish line.

Um I would say my personality doesn’t lend well to uh I think what do they call it, analysis, paralysis. So there’s a lot the people that get really bogged down by all of the intricate details and the, well if this then this and then they’re just sitting there planning that typically drives me crazy. But I think that’s a personality trait versus um something that we can kind of just peanut butter spread across all demographics. I don’t know. What do you what did you see on that? Well, I just wanted to highlight something which was you said you’re more of an action taker and you but you’re you’re the person who’s doing that job. So would you, would you say your personality fits well with being a fighter pilot? Um No, I would say not, I think it’s something that I’ve learned and and like I’ve alluded to before, there were um uh man just a ton of guys that gave me second chances and there’s there’s a lot of guys that are just they they fit the role, their personality just works and they do better in those situations and I’ve I’ve gotten better.

There are still guys that are much better than me. Um I’ve gotten better over the years just because I’ve learned through the painful experience of not being the person that I needed to be along that path. So I think for me it just took a while to to learn that, I mean call me a slow learner if you want. Um But then just being able to admit that like no I have, I have not nailed it when I needed to and I’ve not been the person I needed to be. But those uh those are events in the past and that’s not, that’s not who I want to be, so I can grow into into that and learn from that. Um So I would say it’s very personality dependent, there’s a lesson there anyway because you know if you if you wanted to do something but you weren’t necessarily suited to it, you learned the skill and you did it anyway. So thank you for sharing that in answer to your question. I think I think most people in relation to business, most people don’t plan that much. I think there are a minority who go out and do like a really good business plan and think about it a lot.

I think typically people who go into business are they have a particular skill that they’re good at and they just go for it and then figure it out as they go in terms of debriefing. I think there are a lot of questions quite simple questions that you could ask the people in charge of a business that would make a significant difference. So I think having even having that three step process, I think it’s going to be valuable to people. Yeah. Yeah, I hadn’t thought of it that way. The planning piece. Um I think if if you’re a person that does get stuck in the planning and re analyzation and you know, getting bogged down in the details. Um, I have found that if I, if I find myself kind of stuck in that trap where I’m like, man, I just want to get going. Um, what I’ll do is I’ll just define when I’m gonna start and that maybe after, like you said that maybe after I have done my business plan and run it by a certain amount of people and, and then I go on this date, I’m gonna start and that kind of lights a fire.

Um, for me to define my schedule for the day and to go, what do I need to do today to, to make these things happen. I mean that honestly, that’s where you’re going to do a lot of your learning and even a lot of the flights where we do a lot of planning, um, during execution, there’s things are gonna, you’re gonna have to kind of go with the roll with the punches and kind of go with the flow and, and you know, learn on your feet a little bit because that such is life? Well, I’ve really enjoyed talking to you. I think the topic is absolutely fascinating. Is there anything that I should have asked you about today, um, off the top of my nugget. I can’t, I think we covered most of it. Um, if I think of it here in a second, I’ll let you know and any closing thoughts for us. Yeah, I would say um just a couple of little tidbits here is there’s you know, especially in business, what I’ve learned and how I’ve leveraged my the my fighter pilot background and my aviation background into what I’m doing in business now is um You know when I when I was new and starting out, I was in what I call the achievement hamster wheel, I was just achieving things and I was onto the next thing and it it really wore me out because I hadn’t defined success.

And what did success really mean to me that didn’t mean buying 10,000 apartment complexes and being a multi billionaire. Um So when I define success, I knew when I when I was able to get there, but then there’s even more to it after that is the word significance. So once you, once you hit success, what significance does that have? So as I guess my if I could go back, what I would have done is, yes, I’m achieving these things. But then after I achieve these, what how does that all add up to success? And then does that success um add up to significance outside of me, How does that help my family, my wife, my kids, how is that helping people around me um And what we did with single seat mindset to make it very significant for me um specifically is we give all of the money away from that business, um, to a Children’s cancer nonprofit. So I made it not about money for me. I made, that gives us a lot of significance to share our stories to give back.

And then to give the monetary proceeds to families that have kids going through cancer treatments. And so that I think is kind of, the big lesson learned for me is like, well, once you hit success, how do you avoid that huge inevitable crash? Because you just, you achieved your life dreams. Well, what significance it had, and and how do I kind of leverage that to keep moving forward and to continue doing bigger and better things. I feel that kind of deserves an applause, that one. So well done for all of your good work. I try and stay away from the word crash when I’m talking to a pilot, but that was, that wasn’t me. And you did anticipate the next question and that was what does success mean to you? So thank you for your answer. In terms of where people can find you, let’s say they want to buy a book or they want to follow you, where do they go? Yep, singleseatmindset.com, it’s got all of our social media links. It has all of our free programs. We have, what’s called the insider circle that’s constantly growing. We’re constantly getting more fighter pilots. We already started writing our third volume of the book. But yeah, singleseatmindset.com, is the ticket. Dominic, thank you for being a great guest today. Thank you, Thomas. I enjoyed it.